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Feb 9, 2021 13:57:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to request a JPEG be converted to RAW.

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Feb 9, 2021 14:38:07   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
At the risk of beating a dead horse - RAW has much more information than jpg. It would require a psychic to put the missing info back to create a RAW file. Then again, RAW is digital data straight from the sensor, not really an image file.

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Feb 9, 2021 14:58:10   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
PHRubin wrote:
... Then again, RAW is digital data straight from the sensor, not really an image file.


Why don't we add a fork to this thread and go off in a different well-trodden direction?

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Feb 9, 2021 14:59:10   #
AGB
 
There are some online sites that can convert JPG to RAW ...haven't tried them myself

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Feb 9, 2021 15:01:10   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
anotherview wrote:
...I suppose the user can scan a hard copy of an image to produce a RAW file. Or he can take a digital photograph of the mage in camera with the camera set to record in the RAW file format...


I don't know of any scanner that will produce a raw file. And a hard copy image is not likely to have the data depth of a raw file.

Yes, taking a photo of a hard copy with a camera can certainly produce a raw file, but there's no additional information from the original source that will be generated by an exercise like that. However, good resolution of the imperfections in the print will certainly be evident.

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Feb 9, 2021 15:10:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to request a JPEG be converted to RAW.


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Feb 9, 2021 15:11:31   #
larbear360
 
Take a look at Topaz JPEG to RAW AI. I don't own it so I don't know if it saves as RAW or not.

https://topazlabs.com/jpeg-to-raw-ai/

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Feb 9, 2021 15:24:05   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:


Y'all do know that what you see on the screen of an editor when working with a RAW file is not a JPEG, or a TIFF, or anything, it is a graphic rendering of the data the editor has to work with, displayed by the editor. You're not literally looking at a RAW file, you are viewing the contents of the RAW file.
That's why one has to "convert" and/or save(as) to a JPEG or a TIFF, or, a....
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But that is what is done for any file. A MS Word file on the screen is displayed by the rules of what the file data tells the program to display. And a jpeg displayed is not the file displayed but the data in the file that tells the program how to display each pixel. Some files and programs have a very simple relationship and others are more complex, but they are all related like this unless the user has a program to look at each byte as its numeric value. --Richard

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Feb 9, 2021 15:36:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
profbowman wrote:
But that is what is done for any file. A MS Word file on the screen is displayed by the rules of what the file data tells the program to display. And a jpeg displayed is not the file displayed but the data in the file that tells the program how to display each pixel. Some files and programs have a very simple relationship and others are more complex, but they are all related like this unless the user has a program to look at each byte as its numeric value. --Richard


But so many people don't understand that they are looking at a rendering of a JPEG file by the program that they are using. A photo editor is not showing one a "JPEG" per se, but rendering the data in the file, same with a RAW file, the "image" in the editor is built from the data in the file.

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Feb 9, 2021 15:41:09   #
GreenReaper
 
I have not read through all the replies however, I did a quick google search on converting jpg to raw and apparently it can be done via a free in line service (no, I don’t have the URL handy). It most likely won’t give you an “original RAW file” but it will most likely give you something you can work with as a RAW file. Lotsa luck!

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Feb 9, 2021 16:19:12   #
profbowman Loc: Harrisonburg, VA, USA
 
PaulBrit wrote:
I have a photograph taken in 2006 with a Lumix camera in England before I met Jean and subsequently came to be in the USA. Jim, of our local Caveman Camera Club, wishes to use the photograph in an exercise to see how we members of the Club edit the image.

But Jim requires the image to be converted to ‘RAW’ format.

I am using DxO PhotoLab 4, which is splendid for my Nikon files, but I don’t have a clue as to whether I can do anything with that Lumix image.

Any ideas would be more than welcome.

(I should add that it is a little after 4 am and I am not yet out of bed!)
I have a photograph taken in 2006 with a Lumix cam... (show quote)


Well, here is a free way to do what your friend wants.

1. Download and install IrfanView and its associated plugins. The plugin specify all of the formats that can be used in IrfanView. ( https://www.irfanview.com/ )
2. Open the jpeg image in IrfanView.
3. Save the image as RAW. You can accept the defaults.
4. To open the image in RAW back to IrfanView, you will need to change the size in pixels to those of the original jpeg file.

My apologies if someone has given this already. [I did not look through through all 8 pages of comments!] --Richard

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Feb 9, 2021 16:48:08   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
profbowman wrote:
Well, here is a free way to do what your friend wants.

1. Download and install IrfanView and its associated plugins. The plugin specify all of the formats that can be used in IrfanView. ( https://www.irfanview.com/ )
2. Open the jpeg image in IrfanView.
3. Save the image as RAW. You can accept the defaults.
4. To open the image in RAW back to IrfanView, you will need to change the size in pixels to those of the original jpeg file.

My apologies if someone has given this already. [I did not look through through all 8 pages of comments!] --Richard
Well, here is a free way to do what your friend wa... (show quote)


Look more carefully at IrfanView. It will read but will NOT write a RAW format.
(Note also that IrfanView is Windows only. No mac users need apply).
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(Download)

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Feb 9, 2021 18:26:37   #
JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon
 
PaulBrit, I would recommend you download Topaz for free trial and convert to RAW.

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Feb 9, 2021 18:51:41   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A RAW file is God's way of telling us how hard it is to be a camera.


Mirrorless cameras are the works of the Devil !

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Feb 9, 2021 19:26:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
FotoHog wrote:
Mirrorless cameras are the works of the Devil !


Counter-point.

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