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Jan 29, 2021 00:28:10   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
People pretend not to like grapes when the vines are too high for them to reach.

IIRC it wasn’t people, it was a fox ?

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Jan 29, 2021 00:54:12   #
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ricardo00 wrote:
I am not sure what you are saying, but if you are going to buy the "best" Sony camera for $6,500, wouldn't you want the best lenses? Do you really think the 200-600mm Sony lens can match the performance of the Sony 600mm f/4? I don't shoot Sony but my friends who do, either have the 600mm f/4 after being dissatisfied with the performance of the 200-600mm or are saving up to get one. They do still occasionally use the 200-600mm but primarily when they are hiking and don't want to carry the f/4. And if you don't care about the "NFL or aspire to Nat Geo", you would not be buying a $6,500 camera. I am always amazed at what gear people have ($$$) and as far as I know, none have sold their kidneys to get them.
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It doesn’t really matter that your friends are dissatisfied with anything less than the ultimate optics. They may be your best friends, but they are not my clients.

The belief that high MP sensors either deserve or demand ultimate optics is foundational to the entertainment value of forums such as UHH. And acoarst the show must go on.

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Jan 29, 2021 06:52:09   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I pay my full taxes just like everyone else and have for the past five decades, so please don't act like you are taking care of me. When my photography business takes a loss, or my equipment wears out, I am allowed to deduct business losses and depreciate my equipment just like millions of other US companies, big and small.

I have worked hard from the bottom up to have my career, fighting injustice and racial prejudice and more to have an opportunity like other photographers. I have risked my life covering war and broken many parts of my body in the most dangerous and horrible working conditions to provide the news you take for granted when you look at a newspaper or magazine or turn on your TV from your easy chair. I chose this as my avocation and my passion and I make no apologies for being finally able to afford the gear I need to do my job.

Feel free to share your opinions about the A1 and whether or not it is anything you like or not. You don't have to be able to afford it to have an opinion about it. We all love to share our interests as a community of photographers, amateur to professional . We are all equals here at UHH and everyone's photographic opinion and experiences matters the same.

Just don't make it a personal tirade about budget inequities. I work as hard for my money as anyone, always have. Cheers
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Jan 29, 2021 09:45:32   #
gwilliams6
 
Fredrick wrote:
Fujifilm just announced their 102mp MEDIUM FORMAT compact camera for $6,000! That’s the camera professionals will drool over.


It only has 5fps max, 2fps with AF-C so no sports or action shooting pro will want it. And the list of lenses is very limited currently. Maybe if you are a studio or product professional shooter then you would want it. Most pros like myself won't want it, although the image quality will be excellent. Cheers

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Jan 29, 2021 09:47:14   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
It only has 5fps max, 2fps with AF-C so no sports or action shooting pro will want it. And the list of lenses is very limited currently. Maybe if you are a studio or product professional shooter then you would want it. Most pros like myself won't want it, although the image quality will be excellent. Cheers




I imagine some landscape photographer would want the high pixel count.

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Jan 29, 2021 09:53:46   #
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davesit wrote:
I pre-ordered mine as well and am thinking if I should sell my A9 or A7RIV. Probably will be keeping the RIV for the pixel counts. Also been wondering if I should keep some of my lenses. The 70-200mm, being an older lens, could its AF keep up with 30FPS? Waiting for Sony to release the list of A1 compatible lenses. Also have the 135GM, which sort of makes most other lens in that focal range lesser.

I am also a photojournalist. Do I need the A1 for my work? Probably not, but it sure makes my work more fun! :)
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The only definitive answer from Sony yet on what lenses would do 30fps would be the same list of Sony lenses that do 20fps on the current a9 and A9II. So your newer GM lens like, 400mm f2.8 GM; 600mm f4 GM; 135mm f1.8 GM; 24mm f1.4 GM; 35mm f1.4 GM; 12-24mm f2.8 GM; 16-35mm f2.8 GM,100-400mm GM; 200-600mm G, 24-105mm f4 G should do 30fps. Maybe the older 70-200mm f2.8 GM also will do 30fps. Not likely the older 85mm f1.4 GM.

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Jan 29, 2021 09:59:25   #
gwilliams6
 
davesit wrote:


I imagine some landscape photographer would want the high pixel count.


That is true, I should have added landscape shooters, sorry. For me and many other pros and amateurs, the 61 megapixels of the Sony A7RIV rock it for landscapes.

Here 61mp A7RIV with Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN lens. The Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco, California, USA. 24mm , f8, ISO 200, 1/80 sec. This is a single image.

Also 61mp A7RIV with Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 lens: Horseshoe Bend and the Colorado River, Navajo lands, near Page, Arizona, USA. 17mm, f8, ISO 100. This is an HDR image of five exposure-bracketed shots merged in Adobe Lightroom .


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Jan 29, 2021 10:02:48   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
Great light!

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Jan 29, 2021 10:10:43   #
gwilliams6
 
davesit wrote:
Great light!


I think you mean the shots above, thanks

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Jan 29, 2021 10:13:29   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I think you mean the shots above, thanks


Yes, forgot to quote reply.

BTW, you probably know this already, I heard from Sony Pro Support yesterday that Pro Support members will be receiving an email next week to prioritize the delivery of the A1.

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Jan 29, 2021 10:30:19   #
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gwilliams6 wrote:
It only has 5fps max, 2fps with AF-C so no sports or action shooting pro will want it. And the list of lenses is very limited currently. Maybe if you are a studio or product professional shooter then you would want it. Most pros like myself won't want it, although the image quality will be excellent. Cheers


I was the guy with a Sinar on the NFL sidelines. Don’t ask me whether I’m kidding. Ask yourself.

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Jan 29, 2021 10:31:37   #
gwilliams6
 
Folks the reason there is normally blackout with mirrorless cameras is: Mirrorless cameras black out because the camera has to close the mechanical shutter and clear the data off the sensor before it can re-open the shutter to expose the sensor for the LCD or EVF to display the scene. It is not about not having a mirror. The blackout is caused by the mechanical shutter opening and closing.

You might assume then that when shooting in electronic shutter ,all mirrorless cameras or DSLR cameras when in electronic shutter mode would have no blackout. Not true as electronic shutters in all mirrorless and DSLRs read the sensor row by row from top to bottom and that still causes delay to clear the data before the EVF or rear LCD can reset. That is the blackout in electronic shutter operation.

But with the exclusive stacked-sensor of the Sony A9, A9II and now A1, the sensor readout is so fast (only a full global shutter would be faster) so there is totally no EVF blackout in the A9, A9II, and now A1 when shooting in electronic shutter. No other digital fullframe cameras can claim that, though some are better and have reduced blackout. But until they have a stacked sensor or a global shutter all other fullframe cameras will have some degree of EVF blackout in electronic shutter shooting as well as mechanical shutter operation.

I have to teach this stuff to my University Photography course students, so I have to be correct on the physics and technology . I realize that unless you understand the uniqueness of the Sony-exclusive stacked-sensors in the A9, A9II and now A1 it can be confusing.
Cheers

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Jan 29, 2021 10:35:23   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Folks the reason there is normally blackout with mirrorless cameras is: Mirrorless cameras black out because the camera has to close the mechanical shutter and clear the data off the sensor before it can re-open the shutter to expose the sensor for the LCD or EVF to display the scene. It is not about not having a mirror. The blackout is caused by the mechanical shutter opening and closing.

You might assume then that when shooting in electronic shutter ,all mirrorless cameras or DSLR cameras when in electronic shutter mode would have no blackout. Not true as electronic shutters in all mirrorless and DSLRs read the sensor row by row from top to bottom and that still causes delay to clear the data before the EVF or rear LCD can reset. That is the blackout in electronic shutter operation.

But with the exclusive stacked-sensor of the Sony A9, A9II and now A1, the sensor readout is so fast (only a full global shutter would be faster) so there is totally no EVF blackout in the A9, A9II, and now A1. No other digital fullframe cameras can claim that, though some are better and have reduced blackout. But until they have a stacked sensor or a global shutter all other fullframe cameras will have some degree of EVF blackout in electronic shutter shooting as well as mechanical shutter operation.

I have to teach this stuff to my University Photography course students, so I have to be correct on the physics and technology . I realize that unless you understand the uniqueness of the Sony-exclusive stacked-sensors in the A9, A9II and now A1 it can be confusing.
Cheers
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Jan 29, 2021 10:41:29   #
gwilliams6
 
User ID wrote:
I was the guy with a Sinar on the NFL sidelines. Don’t ask me whether I’m kidding. Ask yourself.


For years shooting pro sports I shot roll film cameras ,some single frame and some with the first motor drives that did 5ps, so I know it can be done. Yes we are spoiled now to have 10-30fps cameras now, but I welcome it. still anticipation and timing are keys to getting the shot.

I shot many a view camera 4X5, 8X10 and even 11X14 inch Deardoff, and twin-lens reflex camera (Mamiya C330). Cheers .

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Jan 29, 2021 10:47:33   #
Canisdirus
 
davesit wrote:


I imagine some landscape photographer would want the high pixel count.


There are only two (as far as I know) MF lenses that are really fast. The Hasselblad 80mm F/1.9 @ $4800 and the Hasselblad HC 100mm f/2.2 @ $4400. To defeat the FF DOF war...it's another huge chunk of change that has to be laid out.
Fuji just doesn't have the lenses.
The Fuji camera body is just the beginning of a thin wallet. The lenses will do the rest of the thinning, and for it's really one purpose...product and portrait photography.
Medium format is a niche system, as opposed to the all around FF bodies.

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