"From my perspective the greatest thing about the Alpha 1 is that it's innovative technology will soon work it's way down to prosumer level bodies."
I totally agree! I'm looking forward to more new stuff containing some of the A1 technologies. Like an A6700.
WillieWisconsin wrote:
Same here, no thanks! Hard to wrap my head around a $6,500 camera. What on earth makes this camera worth that much?
Its worth that much because working pro's that make 100% of their living will pay that much for a "PRO" level camera. Plus, there are lots of features these pro cameras have that cameras geared to consumers (hobbyist, amateurs, etc) don't have. And others, who just have to have the latest and greatest camera on the market, and have the money to spend on the latest and greatest camera at any given time will buy them also.
Just look at the prices for the current "PRO" level DSLR's for example;
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1512601-REG/canon_eos_1d_x_mark_iii.htmlhttps://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1515330-REG/nikon_d6_dslr_camera_body.htmlAnd according to the Nikon Rumors website, which is usually spot on with its predictions of upcoming Nikon products and prices, the "PRO" level Z9 which is rumored to be coming.
https://nikonrumors.com/2020/10/06/first-set-of-rumored-nikon-z9-mirrorless-camera-specifications.aspx/Sony's price for the Alpha 1 is in line with other "PRO" level cameras.
Is it worth it? Thats up to each individual user to determine for themselves, working pro or hobbyist.
ricardo00 wrote:
If you are going to buy the top of the line Sony for sports or wildlife photography, then either you have or are going to buy a 400mm f/2.8 ($12,000) and/or the 600mm f/4 ($13,000). No prosumer 200-600mm lens ($1,900) for this baby.
If that’s what you want to believe then that is what you must spend. A more open minded awareness of multiple parameters might save you $10K, but I’m not your banker.
Then there’s the vast majority of users, those who don’t care about the NFL or aspire to Nat Geo. Those who can keep their kidneys and still afford their most appropriate lenses.
David Martin wrote:
Real-time eye AF now includes humans, animals and birds.
Dear David Martin...Real-time eye focus sounds great on bird pictures I am doing now. Even with bad eyes, a blind hog finds an acorn sometimes, if he has an Alpha 1 camera to help him.
We accomplish things by directing our desires, not by ignoring them.
WillieWisconsin wrote:
Same here, no thanks! Hard to wrap my head around a $6,500 camera. What on earth makes this camera worth that much?
Nikon has been getting that kind of money for their pro level DSLRs for a few years now.
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
Fujifilm just announced their 102mp MEDIUM FORMAT compact camera for $6,000! That’s the camera professionals will drool over.
joer
Loc: Colorado/Illinois
ggenova64 wrote:
What is blackout?
"Viewfinder Blackout is a problem in single-lens reflex (and also view cameras) where the viewfinder image is lost during the exposure- so the photographer cannot see the exact image at the moment the photograph is taken. This is caused by using the same lens for viewing as for taking."
ggenova64 wrote:
What is blackout?
On mirrorless cameras with EVF's (electronic viewfinders), the image on the EVF comes continuously from the CCD sensor. After you take a picture, the info from the sensor needs to be read out first into a buffer before a new picture gets fed to the EVF again. The fraction of a second that it takes results in your EVF blacking out for that duration.
Now suppose you are shooting in continuous mode trying to follow a fast moving bird or race car, those blackouts in between shots could be very distracting, making it hard to move the camera to follow the action. The Canon R5 could shoot at 20fps with very little blackout, making it the best in currently available models. The Sony A1 is claiming 30FPS without any blackout, which is groundbreaking, as is the 30FPS frame rate. Combined that with the silent shooting using the electronic shutter, you can understand why sports and wildlife photographers are so excited about this camera.
joer
Loc: Colorado/Illinois
davesit wrote:
On mirrorless cameras with EVF's (electronic viewfinders), the image on the EVF comes continuously from the CCD sensor. After you take a picture, the info from the sensor needs to be read out first into a buffer before a new picture gets fed to the EVF again. The fraction of a second that it takes results in your EVF blacking out for that duration.
Now suppose you are shooting in continuous mode trying to follow a fast moving bird or race car, those blackouts in between shots could be very distracting, making it hard to move the camera to follow the action. The Canon R5 could shoot at 20fps with very little blackout, making it the best in currently available models. The Sony A1 is claiming 30FPS without any blackout, which is groundbreaking, as is the 30FPS frame rate. Combined that with the silent shooting using the electronic shutter, you can understand why sports and wildlife photographers are so excited about this camera.
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The frame rate and black out are not linked. All ML cameras have no block out, since they have no moving mirrors but just about all of them can not shoot at 30fps.
User ID wrote:
It’s not the only Leica priced non-Leica body. But the Leica $$ is in the lenses.
Once you involve 2 or 3 lens outfits only Leica outfits are Leica priced. A Sony a1 outfit is only 3 or 4 thou $$ more than my current Sony outfit. To swap out my whole Sony outfit to Leica would cost 15 or 20 thou $$.
And for that $$ I would be minus all the performance benefit of the a1. All I’d be getting with Leica is a box containing an outdated sensor, plus a large steaming heap of useless optical prestige.
It’s not the only Leica priced non-Leica body. But... (
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Yow, perhaps I'm a little slow but you're a funny dude once a person gets past the initial irritation! "plus a large steaming heap of..." I've got a lot of places I can/will use that. Thanks, but don't expect credit each use.
I just traded in my old car for less than $6,500.
joer wrote:
The frame rate and black out are not linked. All ML cameras have no block out, since they have no moving mirrors but just about all of them can not shoot at 30fps.
I didn't phrase it properly. The "blackout" effect on ML's EVF's is more like a slideshow, especially when the camera is capable of shooting at high FPS.
User ID wrote:
If that’s what you want to believe then that is what you must spend. A more open minded awareness of multiple parameters might save you $10K, but I’m not your banker.
Then there’s the vast majority of users, those who don’t care about the NFL or aspire to Nat Geo. Those who can keep their kidneys and still afford their most appropriate lenses.
I am not sure what you are saying, but if you are going to buy the "best" Sony camera for $6,500, wouldn't you want the best lenses? Do you really think the 200-600mm Sony lens can match the performance of the Sony 600mm f/4? I don't shoot Sony but my friends who do, either have the 600mm f/4 after being dissatisfied with the performance of the 200-600mm or are saving up to get one. They do still occasionally use the 200-600mm but primarily when they are hiking and don't want to carry the f/4. And if you don't care about the "NFL or aspire to Nat Geo", you would not be buying a $6,500 camera. I am always amazed at what gear people have ($$$) and as far as I know, none have sold their kidneys to get them.
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