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Jan 5, 2021 16:18:55   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jerryc41 wrote:


Getting their first shot has been a major milestone for healthcare workers. Let's hope we can all get our shots, and the follow-up shots soon.



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Jan 5, 2021 16:53:51   #
majeskiphoto Loc: Hamilton, Ontario
 
I thought photographers were smarter than the average 'bear' especially older wiser ones?
But apparently Not!

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Jan 5, 2021 17:05:22   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
sumo wrote:
Portuguese Nurse Dies Suddenly After Receiving COVID Vaccine

The latest suspicious death to occur days (or, in some cases, even hours) after a patient received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine has surfaced in Portugal, where a pediatric surgery assistant in Porto (who was reportedly in “perfect health” when she received her first dose of the Pfizer vaccine) has died suddenly.
Health authorities are investigating the death. Meanwhile, scientists from around the world continue to criticize the European Union for its comparatively sluggish vaccine rollout, which only began on an emergency basis little more than one week ago.

The patient was identified on Monday as Sonia Azevedo, 41, a mother of two who worked as a surgical assistant at the Instituto Portugues de Oncologia, a cancer hospital in Porto. She was among the 538 healthcare workers at IPO who received their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine last Wednesday. Azevedo had dinner with her family on New Year’s Eve, but was found dead in her bed the following morning.
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It could be a severe allergic reaction. Or any of a number of other conditions that still leave the person looking "perfectly healthy". We have a grand niece who is extremely allergic to peanuts. Otherwise she is a very healthy, extremely energetic little girl. But her parents and her teacher have emergency inhalers and injectors in case she gets exposed. In her case if not given the injection and using the inhaler after exposure she could be dead in less than an hour.
I had students in the same type of situation. (high school level) In the case of one young lady the school nurse had the injector and inhaler on hand, the student carried an inhaler to keep her breathing long enough to get to the nurse and every teacher she had classes with plus a few of her friends who volunteered and other staff members all took a short class on what to do and signed off as having done so.
Once a new district "zero tolerance" drug directive came along written by someone who forgot to make exceptions for cases like her. At the time our nurse was on vacation (year round school so our nurse took a week or two a few times a year and a sub manned the nurse's office) and the sub was new and young. She was told by some district official that she must enforce the new rule on everyone so she confiscated the girl's emergency inhaler. The girl arrived at my first period class in tears over it. I sent her back to the office with her best friend and the biggest strongest boy in the class in case she had an attack and had to be carried. (campus was 2 blocks x 2 blocks, a big school) A blistering note about it and also called the Asst Principal in charge of health and student safety. Twenty minutes later she was back in the room smiling and waving her inhaler to show she got it back. I just pulled my own asthma inhaler out of my pocket and waved it back at her.
At the faculty cafeteria later that day the Principal and Asst Principal thanked me for taking action and informed me the sub nurse had been called directly by some fool in the central office and they didn't know she was told to confiscate all meds and inhalers etc. Being young and new it didn't occur to her that the school admin didn't know what downtown told her to do. Our Principal and our Union Rep + a teacher who happened to be a lawyer who often did work for the Union and Student's families had a conference call with downtown before lunch the day it happened.
The next day phone calls were made to all school nurses and an amended directive was e-mailed to all schools in the district.
This was Los Angeles Unified School District, 1000+ schools, over 200 charter schools, 27,000 teachers, 700,000+ students scattered over nearly 1000 sq miles of Los Angeles and areas that border the city.

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Jan 5, 2021 17:56:55   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
sumo wrote:
Rate Of Adverse Reactions To COVID Vaccines Already 50x Higher Than Flu Shot

1/ Through Dec. 22, with fewer than 1 million doses of the #Covid vaccine given,
@cdcgov's vaccine injury reporting system received 307 reports of ER visits and 17 "life threatening" events.

Per dose, that's roughly 50 times the rate of adverse events from the flu vaccine...

Not so fast.

If you go to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) website and read the reported symptoms, most are insignificant "feeling funny", nausea, brief lightheadedness, sore arm, flu-like symptoms, headache, etc.

If you filter the reports to just "life threatening", there are a total of 17. If you filter results to "death", there are none reported. The data are updated every Friday, so that's 17 severe life threatening reactions out of 3-4 million vaccine recipients.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:01:28   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Good for her! Years of hard work will reward her with a richly rewarding career and life. Glad she got the vaccine - I imagine that she feels relief, even though it is just #1.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:05:46   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
You have to be very proud of your daughter. You must have done a good job raising her.

Ed


Yes we are. We like to think so.
She went to Gifted Magnet schools, a "Middle College" high school on a local college campus and was accepted to UCLA before high school graduation, in fact they called her offering early summer enrollment and she was at UCLA in June after HS graduation in May with so many AP and night school college credits that she was classified as a Senior before she finished her first year.
She took a 1.5 year break after graduation went all over for interviews and was accepted by several medical schools - she chose the University of Virginia. It was on her 1st tier list and got her far enough from So California to be on her own and not distracted by friends etc. (When it comes to "helicopter parents" my wife tends to be an Apache Gunship on steroids.)

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Jan 5, 2021 18:10:48   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
sb wrote:
Good for her! Years of hard work will reward her with a richly rewarding career and life. Glad she got the vaccine - I imagine that she feels relief, even though it is just #1.


Thank you very much.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:12:23   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
robertjerl wrote:

So she followed Mom (Surgical RN & OR Charge Nurse) into medicine and upped the goal to MD and surgeon.


OK, that explains it.

You and your wife should be very proud, and very happy.
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Our local VA clinic has advised us that we will be notified when it is our turn. I intend to get vaccinated unless they start playing around with the doses or timing. They have been telling everybody about all the testing, now they are discussing reducing the dose of one vaccine and delaying the second dose on another, without any serious testing. When the bean counters become the decision makers I get nervous.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:36:27   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Bill_de wrote:
OK, that explains it.

You and your wife should be very proud, and very happy.
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Our local VA clinic has advised us that we will be notified when it is our turn. I intend to get vaccinated unless they start playing around with the doses or timing. They have been telling everybody about all the testing, now they are discussing reducing the dose of one vaccine and delaying the second dose on another, without any serious testing. When the bean counters become the decision makers I get nervous.

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We are proud.

Well VA will get around to you one day. Is your local VA one of the really good ones or...?

I have a friend who is also a Vietnam Vet that relies mainly on VA for health care. (I have a Kaiser Premium level plan from teaching as well as VA.) He was participating in a weekly group seminar led by a Doctor with a great record of getting veterans the max benefits. I had just agreed to start driving over to the VA facility he goes to and joining when Covid hit. I have 40% disability from exposure to Agent Orange and my friend had told him about me - his answer was to have me join the group. With heart arrhythmia, diabetes and asthma + two years in Nam the doctor said as soon as I got listed as one of his patients he could guarantee me getting upped to 100% and since I had appealed the 40% twice but been turned down he might even be able to get me retroactive back to the second or maybe even first appeal. I had been turned down for PTSD because I told them that after a few years teaching in the Barrio my nightmares changed from military themed to school themed so they put me down as "recovered on his own" but left me the Agent Orange - he said the Agent Orange should have gotten me 100% on its own. Now if they open things back up, I live that long and the same doctor is still there?????

I can hold off on the vaccine since the wife is very strict about letting me get out, who gets in the house and sanitation (surgical RNs tend to be super germaphobes). Any Covid virus that wanted to get to me would have to work hard at it. I have only left the property 13 times since Feb, mostly medical related. When I cut my leg and got an infection Kaiser even gave my wife the gear to do IV antibiotics (she may be retired but all her licences are still current) and sent a home visit nurse to do the checkups and change the dressings twice a week to keep me from going to the medical center.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:51:46   #
Macumazahn Loc: Kansas
 
It's a personal choice I work in a hospital and I am not taking the shot, please study, reports are coming in of people dieing after receiving the shot

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Jan 5, 2021 18:56:15   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Would love to get it if DeSantis and Florida can get it together!

Don

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Jan 5, 2021 19:01:46   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
robertjerl wrote:
Our Daughter is a third year medical student at the University of Virginia and does research in their labs. They are around Covid cases everyday just as much as the University hospital staff. So today they were all given their first vaccine shot and she posted this picture.
Bob: Well good for her - - BUT
As a relative youngster, her risks of severe Covid disease are fairly small.
As a relative oldster, I have taken the MMR-II booster, and I have some Ivermectin in reserve.
Please send her these links.
https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20
https://osf.io/wx3zn/
I have some significant reservations about the moderna and pfizer vaccines -
Their mRNA methodology is brand new - and we have No Clue about the possible long term effects.
I'll be waiting for the release of the J&J single-shot vaccine.

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Jan 5, 2021 19:05:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Macumazahn wrote:
It's a personal choice I work in a hospital and I am not taking the shot, please study, reports are coming in of people dieing after receiving the shot


Hmmm! People die all the time from many many causes, after drinking coffee, after going to a movie, etc etc etc - it is a known fact that the #1 precursor of death is being born and living.
So, I get the vaccine and 1 hour later I die. But of course the eighteen wheeler turning my SUV into a bumper sticker might have had something to do with it. Or the fact that I am 75, health problems etc and just happened to have a heart attack when I blew my temper over finding a scratch on my new SUV when I went out to the parking lot. Don't buy new SUVs, you might die after buying it.

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Jan 5, 2021 19:11:44   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Bob: Well good for her - - BUT
As a relative youngster, her risks of severe Covid disease are fairly small.
As a relative oldster, I have taken the MMR-II booster, and I have some Ivermectin in reserve.
Please send her these links.
https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20
https://osf.io/wx3zn/
I have some significant reservations about the moderna and pfizer vaccines -
Their mRNA methodology is brand new - and we have No Clue about the possible long term effects.
I'll be waiting for the release of the J&J single-shot vaccine.
Bob: Well good for her - - BUT br As a relative y... (show quote)


Yes she is young and healthy but as a third year med-student working in the hospital and labs around active severe Covid cases multiple times a day she and all the other med students and health workers got put on the express route for shots. Those big University Teaching Hospitals tend to take in a lot the very severe cases since they have more facilities and staff than the average hospital.

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Jan 5, 2021 19:33:54   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yes she is young and healthy but as a third year med-student working in the hospital and labs around active severe Covid cases multiple times a day she and all the other med students and health workers got put on the express route for shots.
That's OK - and I understand the rationale - - but she is very young - and we have No idea what this mRNA technology may hold regarding side effects 30+ years from now. For you, me, and my 95 year old mom, 30 years hence is probably Not on our radar scope. But for someone in their 20's ? Caution is recommended. I hope you sent her the links in my previous note.

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