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Did Ansel Adams shoot in the RAW mode?
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Jan 1, 2021 17:57:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
M = Money mode
S or Tv = $#!tty mode
A or Av = Awful mode
P = Playtime mode

— Not my words, but those of a Canon rep at a booth at a PPA trade show in the Mid-2000s!

His point was that professionals know what to do in manual mode, and often make their money by controlling the variables. Few people master both A and S modes unless they work all the time in environments where they need one or the other. P, though, is great for fooling around when you're not serious!

I would add that there is nothing wrong with any mode, provided you know how to use it. But Ansel Adams definitely worked in full manual mode! It's all he had.
M = Money mode br S or Tv = $#!tty mode br A or Av... (show quote)



M = My Way
T = Terrific
A = Amazing
P = Professional
Auto = Adequate

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Jan 1, 2021 17:58:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:


M = My Way
T = Terrific
A = Amazing
P = Professional
Auto = Adequate


More positive than that jaded Canon rep, for sure!

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Jan 1, 2021 17:59:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
More positive than that jaded Canon rep, for sure!


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Jan 1, 2021 18:02:36   #
julian.gang
 
Beenthere wrote:
There was no such thing as RAW or JPG when Ansel ruled the earth.., he was a film photographer , during a film only era.


That what I'm getting at, and his photography blows my photography away, and I suspect a few others!!!...Julian

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Jan 1, 2021 18:05:48   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
rmalarz wrote:
For those "many" whose approach is spray and pray, I could see where processing could be a pain. I photograph with a purpose.

I did a two-day photo excursion at the beginning of Dec. 9 photos the first day and 9 photos the second. of those 15 were printable. The other 4 were more for documentary purposes and were not intended to be processed.

These examples from another trip show 'getting it right in the camera' and the final photograph. On this trip to The Grand Canyon, I took a total of 24 exposures. 4 were documentary. The ones I take, I make count.
--Bob
For those "many" whose approach is spray... (show quote)


I don’t know how you came to think “multitudes” means “spray and pray”. Have never done that but shot 75 images at my granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party. One shot at a time. Some were deleted, most were keepers with slight post processing enhancement thru Apple Photos. Took very little time with very acceptable results.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:10:36   #
Dannj
 
Maybe the question should be which mode would Adams have chosen if RAW and jpeg had been available at the time?
In his day there was no choice. He shot RAW and used his developing skills (post processing) to create the image he had envisioned.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:16:27   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
Dannj wrote:
Maybe the question should be which mode would Adams have chosen if RAW and jpeg had been available at the time?
In his day there was no choice. He shot RAW and used his developing skills (post processing) to create the image he had envisioned.


He used the zone method with 9 different shades of gray in the dark room.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:16:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ronpier wrote:
I don’t know how you came to think “multitudes” means “spray and pray”. Have never done that but shot 75 images at my granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party. One shot at a time. Some were deleted, most were keepers with slight post processing enhancement thru Apple Photos. Took very little time with very acceptable results.

Multitude(s) as in MANY, kinda describes spray&pray shooters. (There are many out there.)
He was thinking of and just saying that if one takes 150+ shots of, lets say a bird, it will be VERY time consuming to edit/tweak all of them. That's all.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:18:33   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
ronpier wrote:
Improvement is subjective even if a client is involved. I am my sole client and usually the hardest to please. So if I am satisfied it’s time to move on.



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Jan 1, 2021 18:22:51   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
nikon_jon wrote:
Amen, brother! If you get right in the camera, there isn't much to do in post.


Ignorance is bliss

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Jan 1, 2021 18:25:54   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob
kymarto wrote:
Ignorance is bliss

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Jan 1, 2021 18:26:55   #
mjmoly
 
Well said Thomas.
Thank you.

Happy New Year to all.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:45:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
He used the zone method with 9 different shades of gray in the dark room.


I think you are missing something. I'll bet your blacks aren't black or your whites aren't white.

Adams (1981) designated 11 zones; other photographers, including Picker (1974) and White, Zakia, and Lorenz (1976) used 10 zones. Either approach is workable if the photographer is consistent in her methods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_System#cite_note-5

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Jan 1, 2021 18:45:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DeanS wrote:
Just wondering. If I shoot a jpeg and someone else shoots a raw. and we both process in PS. print on the same type paper/printer/ink, who can tell which was ahot jpeg and who shot raw?

Longshadow wrote:
No.

It's a trick question since your person performing the analysis will be looking at JPEG versions of both images.

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Jan 1, 2021 18:47:06   #
Canisdirus
 
I'm pretty sure Adams wore clothes while out photographing.

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