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Did Ansel Adams shoot in the RAW mode?
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Jan 4, 2021 15:20:23   #
Photec
 
He was way ahead of digital, living in the chemical era of photography. He was ABSOLUTELY doing things that RAW processing evolved into. He evolved normal post processing of film and prints in the ZONE system, and applied PREVISUALIZATION techniques that are still in use today by many photographers. He would have been all over digital photography had he lived in this era.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:02:07   #
POVDOV
 
AMEN

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Jan 4, 2021 19:36:54   #
Saby Loc: Tamarac FL
 
He shot FILM no RAW no JEPG. Film like us OLDTIMERS did. LOL

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Jan 4, 2021 20:28:48   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
As posited earlier, film is as RAW as one can get.
—Bob

Saby wrote:
He shot FILM no RAW no JEPG. Film like us OLDTIMERS did. LOL

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Jan 4, 2021 20:32:50   #
See_the_shot Loc: Bluffton, SC
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Yes raw gives you the most image data and quality to work with. Ansel would have surely shot raw before any post processing. Folks need to understand that they will NEVER know all the best quality they can get out of their camera sensors and lenses unless they shoot raw.

As an award-winning pro of over 44 years in the business who shot film in 35mm, medium format and view camera size formats as large as 11X14 inch sheet film, raw gives you that kind of quality that Ansel got with his view camera in places like Yosemite.

We have gotten used to jpegs and their quality has improved but the camera's internal processor compresses jpeg images, and you lose dynamic range. Ansel was all about dynamic range and he used his zone system of exposure and film development to give his negatives maximum dynamic range, even before he worked in the darkroom for his final prints.

Ansel would NOT have wanted his modern camera's internal processor and algorithms to decide for him things like sharpness, color, dynamic range, noise reduction, camera bit depth, while throwing away some data.

Raw images record ALL the image data and quality your camera's sensor and lens can record, leaving it up to you to decide what choices you want to make in post processing.

As a pro I shoot raw+jpeg all the time. I use the jpegs for quick sharing and review,, and as backup images, but process the raw captures for my final image output. I want to reap the rewards for my money I have spent on top quality cameras and lenses.

FYI, I own two Ansel Adams image from Yosemite, prints that were made from the original negatives, printed by Ansel's son. They were gifts from my first marriage. I treasure those prints and they are truly amazing in their depth, clarity, and dynamic range. You wouldn't get this today from any jpeg image. Here is one humble shot of my own from Yosemite, from the raw image of my 61megapixel Sony A7RIV camera, using my Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN lens with a polarizing filter. Shot March 2, 2020. This is the classic "Tunnel View" with left, El Capitan; center-rear, Half Dome with a small rising moon; right, Bridal Veil Falls. Click on the image to see the better quality. Cheers. https://www.facebook.com/GSWilliamsPhotography
Yes raw gives you the most image data and quality ... (show quote)


gwilliams6 your image at Yosemite is amazing. I zoomed in on it as much as I could onscreen and the sharpness never faded. It's like I could walk into the screen and go right into Yosemite. Well done.

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Jan 4, 2021 20:45:23   #
srt101fan
 
rmalarz wrote:
As posited earlier, film is as RAW as one can get.
—Bob


And RAW spelled backward is WAR!....😕

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Jan 4, 2021 21:06:40   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
In essence, yes he did. If you understand what JPEG is... then I can absolutely say he didn't;t shoot with the processing and compression algorithm that jpeg is.

The OP has no understanding of the zone system, nor what it's intention is.

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Jan 4, 2021 23:21:23   #
Paul Moshay Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
I think using film is equivalent to RAW, the negative has all the information needed to make a picture in it and the interpretation is up to you. Using transparency, slide, film is equivalent to a JPG. As others have said, Ansel Adams was a master in the darkroom, printing his negatives to suit his vision of the final image and I think that is the analog of the RAW process. All the elements of the image are there and what is done with that data is up to the photographer.
Ansel Adams did use Polaroid for some of his final images. I have his book from 1974 titled Singular Images that are all Polaroid prints. He did love to use Polaroid for testing the settings for some of his exposures, it works wonderfully. Edwin Land had Adams test a lot of Polaroid films during the design of the various emulsions and he enjoyed using them. In my studio shooting large format transparencies I used the Polaroid Type 54 to test the setup, as that B&W film matched the exposure time and density of Ektachrome E100G very well. Sadly there are no more great Polaroid film stocks and no more Ektachrome either, I sure miss them.

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Jan 5, 2021 10:43:33   #
Raptorlg Loc: New Jersey
 
julian.gang wrote:
I don't think so, so for right now I'll stick with JPEG!...Julian


Ansel Adams Did not use a Digital camera. Digital imaging was in it's infantcy.
I believe the following statement is true. You can check by reading his biography.
Adams' Camera was a Deardorf 8×10 View Camera, or a Hassleblad 500c Medium Format 4×5 camera.
He sometimes used a 35 mm camera.

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Jan 5, 2021 13:47:54   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Yes, but he used many large format cameras, even odd sizes. He tried not to mention them by brand because he wanted to be neutral about that--lenses too.

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Jan 5, 2021 18:06:02   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Picture Taker wrote:
RAW is used to fix bad pictures


To be clear, using negatives to make prints is analogous to using RAW in the digital world. RAW files are just that - digital negatives - so, yes, Ansel Adams used the RAW format of his day. He was dodging and burning way past the Dynamic Range of any jpeg today.

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Jan 8, 2021 15:13:22   #
ecommons
 
I think he mostly wore clothes, but being an outdoor type, he may have photographed in the raw.

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Jan 13, 2021 16:42:55   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
Doubt if ever heard the name!

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