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Dec 10, 2020 15:36:38   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
What everyone has forgotten is that accepting a Pardon is an admission of guilt!

So if trump tries to pardon his laundry list, or better yet, his Christmas Gift List of people, and those people accept the pardons, they've admitted their guilt. Just ask Sherriff Joe Arpaio!

But what trump doesn't realize is that with those pardons also comes the responsibility to testify under oath if called upon in any court case if the acceptee has any knowledge of a crime for which they've been asked to testify to. They can't claim the 5th, they have to spill all the beans!

trump is setting himself up for an unwanted legal surprise with any pardons he issues between now and noon on January 20, 2021.
What everyone has forgotten is that accepting a Pa... (show quote)


Why don't you TDS'ers do a little research before you miraculously become experts on everything. A Pardon can preempt anticipated and false, future political persecutions like the Russia hoax for example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/

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Dec 10, 2020 17:27:53   #
National Park
 
Fotoartist wrote:
"Trump's Ukraine extortion attempt". You mean when he asked for an investigation into the very thing which was exposed here? That is not the definition of extortion. You better look that up. What went on was Trump was merely being a whistleblower and got impeached for it.


Trump asked for an investigation of the son of a political opponent before he released needed military funds to the Ukraine--funds that Ukraine needed resist Russian aggression. Linking such a request to the release of military aid should trouble you regardless of whether anything in the Senate Majority report ultimately proves to be true--If Obama had done this you would have cried bloody murder. Obama's political opponents yelled bloody murder because Michelle wore a dress that bared her arms, and Obama wore the wrong color suit, so don't tell me they wouldn't have yelled if Obama had done the same thing Trump did. And Hunter has not been indicted for anything related to Ukraine; as far as I know he isn't even being investigated by any entity with jurisdiction over criminal matters for anything related to Ukraine. Regarding the Republican Senate Committee majority report, why wasn't a link to the Senate Committee's minority report also posted? I think the answer to that question is obvious. And you are really confused as to what a whistleblower is if you think the President was a "whistleblower." The whistleblowers were fired by Trump.

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Dec 10, 2020 17:35:41   #
National Park
 
idaholover wrote:
Plea bargins =coercion Read this....I couldn't put it down.

https://www.amazon.com/Licensed-Lie-Exposing-Corruption-Department/dp/1612541496


If by coercion you mean "if you don't agree to plea to a lesser charge we will go to trial and let a jury of your peers determine your guilt or innocence," then yes, I guess a plea bargain constitutes "coercion." The accused always has the right to go to trial and let a jury make the decision.

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Dec 10, 2020 21:17:33   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
idaholover wrote:
Why don't you TDS'ers do a little research before you miraculously become experts on everything. A Pardon can preempt anticipated and false, future political persecutions like the Russia hoax for example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/

Accepting a Pardon is an admission of GUILT!

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Dec 11, 2020 08:31:00   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Accepting a Pardon is an admission of GUILT!


In your world they can be anything you want them to be. However, this article articulates the entire essence of pardons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/


Happy Hating

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Dec 11, 2020 14:02:18   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
idaholover wrote:
In your world they can be anything you want them to be. However, this article articulates the entire essence of pardons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/


Happy Hating

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States#:~:text=until%20he%20complied.-,Decision,Amendment%20right%20against%20self-incrimination.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/236/79/

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Dec 11, 2020 18:48:01   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
soba1 wrote:
Guess this isn’t over

Actually it now over, the Supreme Court refused to let Texas challenge the election!
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-denies-effort-block-233419258.html

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Dec 11, 2020 18:58:02   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Actually it now over, the Supreme Court refused to let Texas challenge the election!
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-denies-effort-block-233419258.html


We better bend over and kiss our butts good bye

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Dec 11, 2020 19:12:15   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
soba1 wrote:
We better bend over and kiss our butts good bye

You do that while the rest of us put the country back together after trump's tyranical rule for the last 4 years!

"ty·ran·ni·cal
/təˈranək(ə)l/
adjective
exercising power in a cruel or arbitrary way."

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Dec 11, 2020 19:23:41   #
Triple G
 
soba1 wrote:
We better bend over and kiss our butts good bye


You have a crow meal to eat first.

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Dec 12, 2020 08:45:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
idaholover wrote:
Why don't you TDS'ers do a little research before you miraculously become experts on everything. A Pardon can preempt anticipated and false, future political persecutions like the Russia hoax for example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/


What a pardon can't do is protect against future crimes.

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Dec 12, 2020 19:22:15   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
You do that while the rest of us put the country back together after trump's tyranical rule for the last 4 years!

"ty·ran·ni·cal
/təˈranək(ə)l/
adjective
exercising power in a cruel or arbitrary way."


What party is locking down your state? Mine are democrats.

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Dec 12, 2020 20:23:25   #
foodie65
 
yhtomit wrote:
What party is locking down your state? Mine are democrats.


Maybe better locked down than dead????

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Dec 12, 2020 20:24:42   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
foodie65 wrote:
Maybe better locked down than dead????


Your saying you live in a dead state?

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Dec 12, 2020 20:27:12   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
yhtomit wrote:
Your saying you live in a dead state?


State of mind state of mind

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