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Dec 9, 2020 18:59:18   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
grandpaw wrote:
I would like to hear from members that have this combination and would they recommend purchasing this lens for use on the D810


I have a 18-200mm Nikkor zoom that I sometimes use on my D500, which is closely comparable to the D810 in many ways. Is it ideal? No. It is a weird and quirky lens. But it has some nice characteristics that make it very usable and convenient. Are the results equal to those when I use a 'premium' lens? No. Are they garbage? No. They are usable photographs, considerably better than casual snapshots.

Exposure can be a little bit of a problem if light is limited, because it isn't a very fast lens. But for some situations where I can't drag a big potload of equipment, it's just the thing.

So when you ask this question, and when you start getting answers, you have to screen against your expectations and needs. Critical contest entry? Maybe not. Capture and share a memory? Probably just fine. Something in between? Your experience will have to tell you.

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Dec 10, 2020 05:31:53   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
Retired CPO wrote:
The 25% greater resolution of the 810 doesn't make a great difference??? Are you high???


For what "most" people do with their photos, maybe not.

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Dec 10, 2020 05:39:46   #
John Kwas Loc: Eagle Bridge, NY
 
grandpaw wrote:
I would like to hear from members that have this combination and would they recommend purchasing this lens for use on the D810


I agree with Gene51. I still own my copy of the 28-300 (I'd be happy to sell it to you). I find the results soft. The end result is it sits on a shelf. While I don't consider myself a pixel peeper I do appreciate a clear sharp picture. I will also add that the last thing I want to do with a walk around lens is to constantly have to think where the sweet spot of the lens is. To me that kind of defeats the point of a walk around lens.

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Dec 10, 2020 05:54:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
User ID wrote:
After reading your linked material I went and deleted all the great images from my worthless lens. Surely such results defy science and are therefore witchcraft. I’m hoping deleting them protects my soul.


It won't help . . .

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Dec 10, 2020 06:04:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
User ID wrote:
My 28-300 cost me less than zero, new in the box, USA version. So I view my results with no mental need to “justify the expense” to myself. If it were not well worth lugging it around I would’ve flipped it fast for an easy $500+, way back when I acquired it.

It’s no super lens, but it helps me take super pix, mainly in daylight. I’m a night crawler so it doesn’t see real heavy use.

And Gene is correct that when it’s not focused to distance the long end is only about 200mm. It’s less than 150mm in close. But would you really need all of 300mm for nearby subjects ? I also use the 24-120 and it’s “shrinkage” at closer distances is negligible. IOW both lenses have similar zoom range indoors and the 24-120 is a stop faster. So consider your most likely use.

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I use all three kit lenses, 24-85, 24-120, and 28-300. All keepers. Reading stuffed shirt negative reviews of all of them is great entertainment. Not denying some soft corners, some CA and some famous distortion. None of it has ever ruined a shot. I don’t shoot brick wall grids, and never shoot corner to corner wedding groups wide open. There are better lenses for those sports. If you compete in them, skip the kit lenses. Dirty little secret: my fave personal “walk around” lens is the Tamron 45/1.8. The things it can’t do I just leave undone. No big deal.
My 28-300 cost me less than zero, new in the box, ... (show quote)


I'm pretty sure the 28-200 AF-D was a way better lens than the 28-300. If 300mm is not usable, then why own a lens that offers it? I find that when it comes to th e 28-300 there are at least three camps - those that looked at it as a good solution and were willing to trade off image quality for convenience, and now that they own it need to convince themselves that "it isn't that bad", those that looked at Ken Rockwell's review, bought it and have regretted it ever since, and no longer read his reviews, and those that looked at it, possibly rented or borrowed it, and decided to pass on it.

The lens is ok sorta on DX, it is ok on a 12 mp FX camera and it does have a few good points - but for my use, the bad outweighs the good. Everyone's mileage (and standard of quality) is different. You don't have to look at stuffed shirt reviews - you only have to go to this page to understand where this lens doesn't belong and where it can work:

https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-databases-for-nikon/thoms-recommended-lenses-2.html

https://nps.nikonimaging.com/technical_solutions/d800_d800e_tips/d800e/

Are you saying that Nikon is represented by a bunch of stuffed shirts? Really?

So anyone reading your post can decide which stuffed shirt has better credibility - you or the guys writing their evaluations and recommendations. A Tale of Two Stuffed Shirts I believe.

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Dec 10, 2020 06:22:40   #
alphonso49uk
 
Lots of people will say the 28-300 is a bad lens.
Ive had 2....one on a d750 which I never liked and one on the d810 which I liked a lot.
It depends on whether you get a decent copy or not.

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Dec 10, 2020 06:25:37   #
User ID
 
Retired CPO wrote:
The 25% greater resolution of the 810 doesn't make a great difference??? Are you high???

25% doesn’t rock much. It will give you a 20x25” print that’s exactly as fine as a 16x20 print from the 20% lesser camera. No big deal.

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Dec 10, 2020 06:35:26   #
User ID
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
Lots of people will say the 28-300 is a bad lens.
Ive had 2....one on a d750 which I never liked and one on the d810 which I liked a lot.
It depends on whether you get a decent copy or not.

Assuming it’s rather complex inside, that seems very likely. Speaks loads about Nikon’s QA :-(

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Dec 10, 2020 06:39:28   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I've used this lens with a D700, D800, and D850. It's spectacular.

There are some who have panned this lens but I respectably disagree with them.
--Bob
grandpaw wrote:
I would like to hear from members that have this combination and would they recommend purchasing this lens for use on the D810

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Dec 10, 2020 06:39:43   #
User ID
 
Gene51 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 28-200 AF-D was a way better lens than the 28-300. If 300mm is not usable, then why own a lens that offers it? I find that when it comes to th e 28-300 there are at least three camps - those that looked at it as a good solution and were willing to trade off image quality for convenience, and now that they own it need to convince themselves that "it isn't that bad", those that looked at Ken Rockwell's review, bought it and have regretted it ever since, and no longer read his reviews, and those that looked at it, possibly rented or borrowed it, and decided to pass on it.

The lens is ok sorta on DX, it is ok on a 12 mp FX camera and it does have a few good points - but for my use, the bad outweighs the good. Everyone's mileage (and standard of quality) is different. You don't have to look at stuffed shirt reviews - you only have to go to this page to understand where this lens doesn't belong and where it can work:

https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-databases-for-nikon/thoms-recommended-lenses-2.html

https://nps.nikonimaging.com/technical_solutions/d800_d800e_tips/d800e/

Are you saying that Nikon is represented by a bunch of stuffed shirts? Really?

So anyone reading your post can decide which stuffed shirt has better credibility - you or the guys writing their evaluations and recommendations. A Tale of Two Stuffed Shirts I believe.
I'm pretty sure the 28-200 AF-D was a way better l... (show quote)

Seems to me that you should believe whatever rocks your world. No idea what’s in those links. No need to know.

No one can assess the value your advice for their own use based on your posted works since they’re all multishot stitched panoramic views ... unless acoarst that someone is also stitching like you. Not knocking it but it’s a specialty approach.

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Dec 10, 2020 06:42:25   #
dennisallard Loc: Southern Maine
 
I bought one of those when I bought my D750. I use it whenever carrying a whole slew of gear doesn't seem feasible. The quality of images is much better than one might expect from a lens with such a range. It also works very well on my "old" D7100. I definitely have no regrets about adding it to my "fleet."

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Dec 10, 2020 07:03:42   #
User ID
 
dennisallard wrote:
I bought one of those when I bought my D750. I use it whenever carrying a whole slew of gear doesn't seem feasible. The quality of images is much better than one might expect from a lens with such a range. It also works very well on my "old" D7100. I definitely have no regrets about adding it to my "fleet."

What is “one of those” ? Thanks.

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Dec 10, 2020 07:19:30   #
dennisallard Loc: Southern Maine
 
User ID wrote:
What is “one of those” ? Thanks.


Sorry. The Nikon 28-300.

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Dec 10, 2020 07:32:31   #
Archboo3 Loc: Central Florida
 
Try it out yourself, aren’t one for a weekend or a week, then you decide. I have a sigma f2.8 120-300. I was told the image quality of the Sigma wouldn’t produce a good quality image on my D850, that the D850 was a too hi end camera and would show all kinds of flaws. I rented on several times over a 2 month period. I love the lens and now own it. Rent the lens and take it for a test drive, see if it works for you.

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Dec 10, 2020 07:56:00   #
AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
grandpaw wrote:
I have a 14-24 F2.8, 24-70 F2.8 and a 70-200 F2.8 that are all great but I was wondering if this would be a good walk around lens or is it something that I should avoid.


I have the Nikon 28-300 on my D750 as my walk-around lens and I love it. I have several primes but seldom use them.

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