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Dec 7, 2020 04:05:11   #
le boecere
 
avflinsch wrote:
Half frame 35mm like my old Olympus Pen EE


I believe I still have one. In 1965, I shipped my Nikkorex 35 home, and bought a Pen EE in the PX + 1 roll (cartridge?) of 36 frames (72 half-frame images), for the long boat ride from Inchon Harbor to San Francisco Bay, with ports of call in Okinawa and "Pearl".

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Dec 7, 2020 07:15:30   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Thanks for practical view from experience (and no sales-job). Ditto: "the quality of the photographer is more important."
hjkarten wrote:
The major change overs were film to digital formats. I first used 8 x 10 film in the 1960's. Nothing came close in terms of resolution and dynamic range. I began to shoot pro images in the lab in digital format in 1990's, and would never go back to film. My current digital images are often in excess of 80 to 150 gigapixels (and more).
But for personal pix I continued to shoot film until the early 2000's. The immediacy of digital images was preferable, so I shifted. The ability to shoot hundreds of pix of birds in flight and throw away the (many) crummy images was economically undeniable. Mirrorless has helped improve that ratio, but the quality of the photographer is more important.
The era of DSLRs was initially limited in resolution and dynamic range. Not true any longer.
Resolution and internal image processing were consequent to improved chip design and digital processing advances.
The differences between DSLR and Mirrorless are reflected in weight, live view quality with improved EVF and representation of real time mods to shutter speed, aperture and ISO.
This is of variable importance, depending on subject material and where and how you shoot.
Overall, the market for stand-alone digital cameras has fallen by as much as 80%, regardless of whether you use DSLRs or Mirrorless, and depending on who you believe. Smartphones have captured the market, and there are many new generation talented photographers shooting very high quality images with the camera that is part of their smartphones.
I personally can't manage to hold my smartphone steady enough for good shots, and can't get decent photos of birds in flight with an iphone, but friends who have mastered flower and landscape pix on iPhone skill take superb photos.
I went mirrorless once EVF (electronic view finders) proved satisfying. But as my photo ambitions increased, I ending up with lenses that were so heavy that the difference in weight between Mirrorless and DSLR were insignificant.
You pays your money, and you takes your chance!
The major change overs were film to digital format... (show quote)

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Dec 7, 2020 08:33:30   #
ken glanzer
 
SuperFly: Why don't you use the camera on Wildlife? ken

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Dec 7, 2020 08:44:16   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Delderby wrote:
You are right not to consider any other DSLRs - mirrorless should be your next cosideration.


Why? If I’m happy with what I have, why change? I’m not a lemming who follows the herd over the cliff of the next new thing to hit the market.

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Dec 7, 2020 08:50:23   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ken glanzer wrote:
SuperFly: Why don't you use the camera on Wildlife? ken


Because the D500, being a crop sensor gives me a little more reach with the 200-500mm lens and it focuses and tracks a little faster. I’m curious to see how the new Z7II will focus and also looking forward to checking out the Z mount 200-600mm that’s coming next year. I do actually bring it and use it when I’m shooting wildlife. It’s around my neck with the 24-70mm while the D500 is on a monopod.

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Dec 7, 2020 09:08:24   #
User ID
 
Mac wrote:
Why? If I’m happy with what I have, why change? I’m not a lemming who follows the herd over the cliff of the next new thing to hit the market.


Keep on keeping on ... rearranging the deck chairs while the band plays on.

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Dec 7, 2020 09:13:20   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It's so easy to go along, to follow the crowd, to go mirrorless ...

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Dec 7, 2020 09:28:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
User ID wrote:
Keep on keeping on ... rearranging the deck chairs while the band plays on.


I wouldn’t be surprised if you had a couple of boxes of unused floppy discs because the were the future. And along side those floppy discs a couple of boxes of unused CDs because they were the next new thing.

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Dec 7, 2020 09:37:05   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Mac wrote:
My baby is my Nikon Df. It’s 7 years old and is still wonderful. I haven’t considered any other DSLRs since I bought it in 2013. It was great then and it is great now.


We are on the same page, keep going with our Df!

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Dec 7, 2020 09:41:44   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You sure have that right. I had one of my initial DSLRs practically vaporize. It left a fine coating of pixel dust all over the cabinet in which I had it sitting. The largest pieces I could find were the fasteners that held the thing together. I was quite saddened by the fact that I had to vacuum up what was left.
--Bob

CHG_CANON wrote:
SLR like a film body? Probably only 1 or 2 new ones since 2000.

DSLR like a digital interchangeable lens camera with an internal mirror? Word is Canon will make no more EF lenses ending in 2020. We'll probably hear no more bodies with an announcement in 2021. Where the global market leader leads, others will likely follow.

It's widely rumored whenever a Sony mirrorless body is sold, another Nikon DSLR explodes into a cloud of dust. If you have any of these risky investments, keep them in ziplock bags to help contain the mess.
SLR like a film body? Probably only 1 or 2 new one... (show quote)

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Dec 7, 2020 09:45:35   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
Agree with you fully, except got the Z6 rather than the Z7. Have had the full gamut of Nikon DSLR's (D50, D90, D7000, D7100, D7200, D500, and. now find the Z6 pretty much resolved my issues with previous mirrorless models, including Olympus and Sony. But I hear Nikon is coming out with a new D880 which, if one is a professional (I'm not) heavily invested in F mount lenses, or needing full frame, etc., should be a real winner

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Dec 7, 2020 10:03:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
The DSLR will go away, just as the TLR went away - but not in my lifetime.

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Dec 7, 2020 10:46:24   #
radiojohn
 
While I am amazed at the clarity of the EVF, I wonder how long it will last.

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Dec 7, 2020 11:13:00   #
joelbolden
 
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe.
Depends if everyone can be "converted".
Then again, if they increase building mirrorless and keep reducing building DSLRs,
that will certainly help move things along, by attrition.


Being a Pentax user for decades I do believe some of us will continue to use DSLR's....Pentax
s newest camera coming out in February is a DSLR.

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Dec 7, 2020 11:15:22   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Mac wrote:
Why? If I’m happy with what I have, why change? I’m not a lemming who follows the herd over the cliff of the next new thing to hit the market.


Where did I say change? Did you not study comprehension at school?

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