JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

The vaccines came from smart scientists, not from "the smartest virologist in the world." Warp Speed pre-paid manufacture, relaxed some of the restrictions on testing and approval, and set up some distribution plans. As far as the development of the vaccine itself... zip!

GARGLEBLASTER Loc: Spain

It doesn't need to be moved, it needs to be deleted

andesbill

Listen you twit, nothing is free, we the people always pay for all services. Socialism doesn’t mean that we don’t pay. It refers to how the money is spent. Conservatives want taxpayer money to only go to military, and infrastructure.
They consider anything else to be socialism. A true conservative wants to eliminate SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. That would be insane. A true conservative would insist that the feds would never subsidize any insurance. You want to live near fires, quakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, you pay for it. Don’t expect the feds to come to your aid, or help you rebuild. You lost your house? Tough titties.

Any federal service is a form of socialism. In some cases, you get back more than you put in- social security and Medicare for example. That’s because we aren’t prepaying enough.
We are in no way a true capitalistic nation. Not even close. No nation is. China is about as Capitalistic as we are, in some ways more so. They provide less for each person, but subsidize their industries (related to national interest) more than we do, maybe.
Privatizing SS is idiotic. During recessions, the elderly would go bankrupt. Then who would pay to keep them alive. If putting SS money into the stock market is so wise, why doesn’t the feds do it? Answer: because it’s stupid.
We the people have stated clearly, time and time again, that we love SS and Medicare. We just need to put more money in to keep it from going bankrupt.
Pure Capitalism would be hell on Earth- Victorian England for example.
However, in my opinion, AOC and her gang of 4 are wrong to try and socialize nearly everything. Doing that strangles the economy. So, we as a society have to pick and choose which programs to subsidize, by how much, and what amount each of us will be taxed to pay for it.
I end up paying for programs I don’t want, and so do you. It’s a compromise. We’re going to make mistakes. I’ll support you when you need it, and I’ll need you to support me when I need help. That’s being an American. We’re in it together, and lord help the nation that tries to attack us, because we don’t just bark, we bite.

tomcat

Well said!!

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

COVID isn’t going anywhere for a while

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Wrong, it helped fund Moderna research, did you somehow forget about them?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Republicans don't think that everything the government does is socialism, there has always been and always will be a role for government in our society but we don't think that the government does much of anything very well. We certainly don't want to see the government take over important sectors of our economy and our society. Healthcare is a problem, in this country it has become far too expensive and government did play a large role in how we got here, but this does not mean that we think that VA for all is a great solution either. You are right that capitalism has to be regulated, but the government also makes a mess out of when it gets involved, ie taxi medallions in NYC.

Anyway, the last thing that I will say is that Healthcare is absolutely not a human right it may be that as a country we choose to have government provide healthcare but the service of others is not a human right! If the people of this country should choose government provided healthcare I would hope that we will understand the additional burden that will be placed on taxpayers to support such a program. I don't know how you can square government provided healthcare with our country's constitution and its commitment to private property which includes private business. Government provided healthcare equates to the complete take over of 100's of thousands if not millions of small medical providers in this country and I would ask where does the government find the constitutional authority to do this?

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

The only 'restrictions' removed were bureaucratic regulations. No science-based steps were removed.

In fact, the biggest time-saver was the brilliant partnership between business and government where the government backed the mass manufacturing of the vaccine while it was still in the testing phase. Kudos to the great businessman who oversaw this feat.

tomcat

Now, let's just hope that the CDC/FDA will take the politics out of this delay they are causing. I worked for big Pharma for many years, producing and selling meds to the UK and Germany. Their regulations are much stricter than ours and their inspections drove us nuts, nitpicking our processes and procedures. We always commented that we did not need our US FDA approval once we got the UK and Germany to accept our procedures and purchase our meds.

It is my opinion that this delay in US approval is nothing but a political move. Once Biden takes office, if he does, then the vaccines will be "miraculously" approved the next day......so he can get all the credit.

diny

You are so right on!!! :) Wish there were more of us who thought like this, we need this kind of thinking, honest, straight forward and to the point...

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

It's not actually an order, but the responsible thing to do is to follow it. Biden has not proposed a law mandating masks. Seems to me maybe he should, but if his asking the country to do it works, that will be better.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Talking politics while drinking strikes me as possibly not the best idea I've ever heard.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

U must drink all the time lol I couldn’t help it.
That was too easy I’ll feel bad tomorrow

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I stand corrected... OWS did fund some research.

Old Coot

Don't understand why it will take 2 to 3 weeks to approve the vaccines for Emergency use.
Surely the emergency is right now. That's why it's called an emergency.
Kudos to the Brits who have the sense to know what is and what is not an emergency.
How many more will ultimately die while we wait for bureaucracy. ?