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Nov 25, 2020 09:57:48   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
Nalu wrote:
Perhaps I don’t know what I am talking about and thanks for the clarification. Guess I need to educate myself about metal prints.


No worries, I think I've seen some offered with frame and matting somewhere, and your idea would work with that combo.

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Nov 25, 2020 10:17:25   #
stogieboy Loc: Marlboro, NY
 
stogieboy wrote:
I've used these in the past, and they work really well. I cannot speak to their efficacy on a metal print, but this is paint in pen form. I would suggest practicing before you actually sign the print. The paint can "blob" out of the end sometimes.


Apologies, I didn't include the link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00448INW6?pf_rd_r=YMX2QGWET7QHTHDT704D&pf_rd_p=40eb7df6-3345-4945-93b1-96c5bd9a116d

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Nov 25, 2020 10:35:20   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 


Interesting, I'll look into these.

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Nov 25, 2020 11:36:22   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
jimvanells wrote:
What's the point of signing the back? Check with the printer to find what type of pen will not affect the UV coating on the print before you sign it.


...the point is you're signing it without distracting from your work. At least that's how I look at it...

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Nov 25, 2020 13:53:19   #
alliebess Loc: suburban Philadelphia
 
alberio wrote:
Thanks jimvanells,
I have tried fine point permanent markers, gell pens and others and they don't stay on the image. You can wipe them off, so I figured the back would work if someone wanted a signed print.


I would be concerned that the signature on the back might bleed through to the image.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:14:43   #
Danielmb
 
I have had very good results from ArtBeat Studio in Orange County CA. They are really good people with whom to work.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:25:08   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
alliebess wrote:
I would be concerned that the signature on the back might bleed through to the image.


The back is bare aluminum. The front is used to infuse the ink onto the aluminum.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:28:39   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
There are many kinds of India-inks and specialized writing fluids that will mark on metal and remain permanent. There are some fine-pointed Sharpie-type markers that will work. For information on theses inks and other methods click on this link:

https://www.durable-tech.com/marking/industrial-inks

My policy for signing prints is as follows:

On fine portrait prints, "fine-art" landscape and personal work, I hand sigh in ink. his is not distracting or deface the workin that I keep the signature smaller enough in part f the composition where it does not interfere. Painters and other artists routinely sign the work and it is considered in good taste.

In certain kinds of commercial work, I might include a watermark to signify copyright protection or to avoid unauthorized use or reproduction. Again, the signature is small but legible and in an area that does not affect the integrity of the work.

In other kinds of commercial and industrial work, especially for advertising and reproduction in printed material, displays, billboards, etc., there is no signature or watermark. Copyright issues are covered by contracts and arrangements with the clients and their agencies.

Occasionally, I may have a high volume portrait job such as photographing an entire graduating class of college or university faculty. For product purposes, I may goto gold foil heat stamping for the hundreds of points being made. Again, the replicated signature is kept small in proportion to the print size and placed in the area of the image where it is not overly conspicuous.

The heat-activated gold or coloured foil may be used to sign a metal print using a special pencil-iron.

Price delivered in albums are no usually signed but the signature is engaged on the inside cover or in a wedding album, I might hand sign the first or last print.

I have been dog this for many years. No client has ever complained and in fact, a few of them returned to have me sign prints that I may have forgotten to sign before framing or mounting.

Your signature shows your pride in your art. It is your "trademark" If it is tastefully done and applied it does not appear as blatant or tasteless advertising but it's good public relations, especially if you are building or sustain your public image.

I never stamp, sign, or write anythg on the back of a print for permanent keeping or display for fear it will seep through the paper or put an unwanted impression on the face of the print. I might label the back of a picture frame or other display method or mount but that is not a signature- it is lost if the prints are removed, remounted or reframed.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:40:55   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
There are many kinds of India-inks and specialized writing fluids that will mark on metal and remain permanent. There are some fine-pointed Sharpie-type markers that will work. For information on theses inks and other methods click on this link:

https://www.durable-tech.com/marking/industrial-inks

My policy for signing prints is as follows:

On fine portrait prints, "fine-art" landscape and personal work, I hand sigh in ink. his is not distracting or deface the workin that I keep the signature smaller enough in part f the composition where it does not interfere. Painters and other artists routinely sign the work and it is considered in good taste.

In certain kinds of commercial work, I might include a watermark to signify copyright protection or to avoid unauthorized use or reproduction. Again, the signature is small but legible and in an area that does not affect the integrity of the work.

In other kinds of commercial and industrial work, especially for advertising and reproduction in printed material, displays, billboards, etc., there is no signature or watermark. Copyright issues are covered by contracts and arrangements with the clients and their agencies.

Occasionally, I may have a high volume portrait job such as photographing an entire graduating class of college or university faculty. For product purposes, I may goto gold foil heat stamping for the hundreds of points being made. Again, the replicated signature is kept small in proportion to the print size and placed in the area of the image where it is not overly conspicuous.

The heat-activated gold or coloured foil may be used to sign a metal print using a special pencil-iron.

Price delivered in albums are no usually signed but the signature is engaged on the inside cover or in a wedding album, I might hand sign the first or last print.

I have been dog this for many years. No client has ever complained and in fact, a few of them returned to have me sign prints that I may have forgotten to sign before framing or mounting.

Your signature shows your pride in your art. It is your "trademark" If it is tastefully done and applied it does not appear as blatant or tasteless advertising but it's good public relations, especially if you are building or sustain your public image.

I never stamp, sign, or write anythg on the back of a print for permanent keeping or display for fear it will seep through the paper or put an unwanted impression on the face of the print. I might label the back of a picture frame or other display method or mount but that is not a signature- it is lost if the prints are removed, remounted or reframed.
There are many kinds of India-inks and specialized... (show quote)


Thank you E.L. Shapiro for you very informative response. Points well taken. Thanks again, Charlie

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Nov 25, 2020 15:49:49   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
There are many kinds of India-inks and specialized writing fluids that will mark on metal and remain permanent. There are some fine-pointed Sharpie-type markers that will work. For information on theses inks and other methods click on this link:

https://www.durable-tech.com/marking/industrial-inks

My policy for signing prints is as follows:

On fine portrait prints, "fine-art" landscape and personal work, I hand sigh in ink. his is not distracting or deface the workin that I keep the signature smaller enough in part f the composition where it does not interfere. Painters and other artists routinely sign the work and it is considered in good taste.

In certain kinds of commercial work, I might include a watermark to signify copyright protection or to avoid unauthorized use or reproduction. Again, the signature is small but legible and in an area that does not affect the integrity of the work.

In other kinds of commercial and industrial work, especially for advertising and reproduction in printed material, displays, billboards, etc., there is no signature or watermark. Copyright issues are covered by contracts and arrangements with the clients and their agencies.

Occasionally, I may have a high volume portrait job such as photographing an entire graduating class of college or university faculty. For product purposes, I may goto gold foil heat stamping for the hundreds of points being made. Again, the replicated signature is kept small in proportion to the print size and placed in the area of the image where it is not overly conspicuous.

The heat-activated gold or coloured foil may be used to sign a metal print using a special pencil-iron.

Price delivered in albums are no usually signed but the signature is engaged on the inside cover or in a wedding album, I might hand sign the first or last print.

I have been dog this for many years. No client has ever complained and in fact, a few of them returned to have me sign prints that I may have forgotten to sign before framing or mounting.

Your signature shows your pride in your art. It is your "trademark" If it is tastefully done and applied it does not appear as blatant or tasteless advertising but it's good public relations, especially if you are building or sustain your public image.

I never stamp, sign, or write anythg on the back of a print for permanent keeping or display for fear it will seep through the paper or put an unwanted impression on the face of the print. I might label the back of a picture frame or other display method or mount but that is not a signature- it is lost if the prints are removed, remounted or reframed.
There are many kinds of India-inks and specialized... (show quote)


Great info and thoughts behind them. I don't normally sign photos, but I do a lot of graphics by hand for clients and I find that the metallic thin point markers are permanent on a lot of surfaces. I have a bunch of Sakura metallic markers in a variety of colors I use for indoor and outdoor graphics.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:50:54   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Danielmb wrote:
I have had very good results from ArtBeat Studio in Orange County CA. They are really good people with whom to work.



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Nov 25, 2020 17:29:20   #
btbg
 
alberio wrote:
I'm looking for the best pen or marker to sign my name on metal that has a high gloss print.
Is it acceptable to sign the back?


What I have done is make my signature into a brush in Photoshop so that I can sign the digital image prior to printing it.

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Nov 25, 2020 17:47:53   #
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alliebess wrote:
I would be concerned that the signature on the back might bleed through to the image.

Too many Hogsters seem to reply having read only a thread’s title and nothing more. But in this instance it seems you’ve not read the thread title ???

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Nov 25, 2020 23:09:56   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
alberio wrote:
Thank You AzPicLady,
Are you using it on a glossy metal print? I've thought of just having it imprinted as you say, but it just seems a little too impersonal. Maybe I'm overthinking it. I rarely consider my photos of the quality that need my name on them, but people have asked me about doing so.


Possibly do both? Have it imprinted and sign the back with a little personable note.

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