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Nov 6, 2020 10:09:11   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
SteveG wrote:
I've been using a mid 2012 Macbook Pro for photo editing but it's too slow. I've been thinking, due to budget reasons, of an older iMac. Maybe a Apple iMac 21.5" i5 8GB 1TB (Late 2015) Mk442ll/a model for around $600. Looking for suggestions and input from the Hoggers!


Not so good for L4 with only 4 or 8 GB...I use an iMac with 6 GB, it is quick.

Cheers!

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Nov 6, 2020 10:15:37   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
I have a 2009 macbook pro. I have no problem PP my 24MP images using Apple Photos program. If you are tight for funds, you may consider using the onboard photo processing by Apple.

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Nov 6, 2020 10:31:29   #
Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois
 
foathog wrote:
Better make sure you CAN upgrade the 21" unit.


I had my 2013 21" iMac upgraded to 16GB and a 1TB SSD installed. I would not recommend it as
a DIY project. I paid about $450.00. Big improvement.

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Nov 6, 2020 10:35:02   #
EriePA
 
I have the same iMac that you have. It had slowed to a crawl even after using every trick available. Then I added an external Seagate USB 3.0 Solid State Drive and moved my operating system (still High Sierra), files and application on to it. The iMac is now extremely fast!! I run Photoshop Elements 2020 for my photo processing it it works great. I did the same with my wife’s vintage 2008 iMac with similar results. A new iMac is not needed unless you want the latest 27 inch model.

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Nov 6, 2020 10:42:29   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Shellback wrote:
Have you thought about building your own?

Check out this article on building one - Best Computer for Photo Editing [2020 PC BUILD]

At the end of the article, there are some build examples and the costs...

Good luck in your search...

That’s a great article. Thanks!

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Nov 6, 2020 11:18:17   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Fredrick wrote:
That’s a great article. Thanks!

You're welcome - I'm investigating building a new machine and running Linux - getting so tired of the constant updates and issues with Win10...

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Nov 6, 2020 11:54:03   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
DanielB wrote:
Go to Best Buy and buy a new 27" iMac on an 18 month interest free payment plan. Don't buy an old Mac or PC your just asking for trouble.


The problem with that is the I am has little upgrade ability. You can still upgrade ram but not the internal SSD as it is soldered to the board. And with the new T2? Security chip I've read you can not run the root drive off an external drive. Lastly, Apple will probably announce the new AMR laptops and hopefully the new AMR IMAC next week. I'd hold off. They will be faster, run cooler and may cost less.

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Nov 6, 2020 11:56:27   #
marty wild Loc: England
 
SteveG wrote:
I've been using a mid 2012 Macbook Pro for photo editing but it's too slow. I've been thinking, due to budget reasons, of an older iMac. Maybe a Apple iMac 21.5" i5 8GB 1TB (Late 2015) Mk442ll/a model for around $600. Looking for suggestions and input from the Hoggers!

Hold it there tiger slap in a ssd drive it will speed it x6

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Nov 6, 2020 11:56:55   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Fredrick wrote:
That’s a great article. Thanks!


Good article but 100% PC biased and does nothing to answer the original question which was about an Apple solution.

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Nov 6, 2020 11:59:50   #
tovie
 
You should check out the Apple web site for refurb'd iMacs.
Also, an Apple reseller I have found to be very satisfactory is Small Dog Electronics, https://shop.smalldog.com.

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Nov 6, 2020 15:59:52   #
Webguydave Loc: C'ville, Va.
 
Lotsa good advice from all points around the compass, but....if you need a faster, more capable machine, buy ( or build) new. Period.
Hardware ages ( grows obsolete) faster than we wish; years fly by and slowly software performance takes a hit, or worse, isn't operable with the latest OS...and that goes for hardware as well ( video cards and external HD cards/interfaces come to mind). So with a used machine, you'll simply get to that point sooner than later.
If $$ is a problem, Apple offers time payments; I'm sure some vendors on the PC side do the same.
I've been down this road before, having been a pShop / Illustrator / Quark user from the very early '90's....(pshop came on a bundle of 3.5" disks, with written documentation!)
Just my .02

Dave in Cville, VA

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Nov 6, 2020 17:28:23   #
HawaiianEye Loc: Haleiwa, Hawaii
 
SteveG wrote:
I've been using a mid 2012 Macbook Pro for photo editing but it's too slow. I've been thinking, due to budget reasons, of an older iMac. Maybe a Apple iMac 21.5" i5 8GB 1TB (Late 2015) Mk442ll/a model for around $600. Looking for suggestions and input from the Hoggers!


The 13" 2012 MBP is the last MBP that is easy to upgrade RAM - to 16GB and to R&R the HDD with an SSD. With the latter be especially careful with the ribbon cable. It is easily damaged though a replacement is available, probably from iFixit.com's store. How to do it w/pics available @ iFixit.com. I've done several and their owners have been very happy. The i5 isn't the snappiest, but you'll be happy with more RAM and an SSD which can be done for <$200 if you DIY.

Plug a large 27" or 32" monitor using a DVI connection - better than HDMI IMO, and you'll still have $2K in your bank account.

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Nov 6, 2020 17:29:57   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I have the iMac you are talking about but that particular model is very difficult to upgrade, to add RAM the computer has to be completely taken apart, a major surgery. Fortunately I was able to buy a 2012 27" iMac from another hogger here that has 32Gig of RAM and i7 processors for about $650 and now after a recent move my 21" iMac never got unpacked from its box. I am perfectly fine with the 27" iMac and honestly I never had any big problems with the 21" however I am not sure that it would be a huge upgrade from your MacBook Pro.

The iMac you are considering is one of a few that is difficult to upgrade, before you buy a used iMac I would strongly urge you to research how they are upgraded, many of them you simply have to open a door on the back of the computer, others like the 2015 have to be completely taken apart, the display has to be removed, fans, hard drives, speakers disconnected, small wires taken out of their chases.... while others it is simply opening a door and changing out chips. You can find videos online about upgrading the different models.
I have the iMac you are talking about but that par... (show quote)


Better to use it for a second screen than leave it boxed, that's what I did with mine.

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Nov 6, 2020 17:36:43   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Im running a mid 2011 27 inch iMac so I feel your pain even more. It has been a great machine for because - it was upgradeable. I have 32 GB of Ram and I run my apps off an EXTERNAL SSD. I replaced the HD with a 4TB version. Then I have a numbe of external drives attached for Time Machine and CCC backups.

But now many apps will not even install on this under High Sierra which is the last OS it will run. I can't install the latest versions of PS or Lightroom even though the machine meets its criteria. I believe the difference is the ML Graphics added in the late 2011 iMac.

So what I would do if I was you. Ideally, I'd say buy an external thunderbolt (1) hard drive and move your apps there, increase your ram which is easy on your mac by opening the door at the back where there are 2 slots. If you have 8 GB now you have 2 - 4GB. You can buy 16GB and have either 20 or 32. Your machine can install up to Catalina if I remember correctly so you are set EXCEPT you will not be able to find an external Thunderbolt drive as thunderbolt 1 drives have just plain disappeared. So you will have to open up the imac which starting with the late 2011 imac is a real mess as others have said. The thinner model glues the monitor to the computer and it is a bitch to open (look at fixit videos to see). There will not be a Plce slot in your computer so you will need to get a sata SSD (still available). I believe this is only 1 SATA port so you will need to attach an external drive for storage. Your mac has USB1, Thunderbolt1 and hopefully a Firewire port because you can't find the thunderbolt and the usb is slow and you might be able to find a firewire drive.

Or when I buy my new one you can buy my drives!

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Nov 6, 2020 17:43:18   #
HawaiianEye Loc: Haleiwa, Hawaii
 
Uh, the OP has a 2012 MBPro, i5, not an iMac. But you're right about the 2011 iMac. The 2012 27" i7 was a disappointment too. Had one that died of major complications that even Apple's Genii couldn't puzzle out.

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