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Oct 27, 2020 19:43:20   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
How big can a smartphone’s image be enlarged?

First answer:
It all has to do with NVD (Normal viewing distance... 0ne and 1/2 to two times the diagonal dimension).

‘Nuf said?

And by the way, FStop 12, thanks for starting this section!

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Oct 28, 2020 06:13:52   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Uuglypher wrote:
How big can a smartphone’s image be enlarged?

First answer:
It all has to do with NVD (Normal viewing distance... 0ne and 1/2 to two times the diagonal dimension).

‘Nuf said?

And by the way, FStop 12, thanks for starting this section!

Dave


Thanks Dave, now start inviting your friends to join the our new group.

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Oct 28, 2020 09:48:02   #
Ourspolair
 
As you said, but also dependent on the number of MPix on the sensor...

I am currently using a Samsung A71. It has a 64MPix sensor, one of the reasons I chose this model. Sadly, the current Gcam software will only work with 16MPix cameras... hoping that will change, so that I can use the raw data from the full sensor!


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Oct 28, 2020 10:04:46   #
Marianne M Banks Loc: Anacortes WA
 
Thank you for starting this section Fstop12.
I’m looking forward to learning a lot and having fun.
I’m currently using an old iPhone 6s and in the process of deciding between a 12 pro vs 12 pro max.
Any input regarding the decision?

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Oct 28, 2020 10:36:40   #
texashill Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
To me, the fact that cell phones have modest mega pixel specs is a plus. I believe that it better utilizes the comparatively small sensor and I don't need large images. Occasionally, I will see a bird or deer in the yard that I would like to shoot and closely crop. Big mega pixels would be good then but I suppose that some phones have lenses that can be attached?

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Oct 28, 2020 10:37:55   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Marianne M Banks wrote:
Thank you for starting this section Fstop12.
I’m looking forward to learning a lot and having fun.
I’m currently using an old iPhone 6s and in the process of deciding between a 12 pro vs 12 pro max.
Any input regarding the decision?


Marianne, I went from an IPhone 6 to an IPhone 8Plus. It was a huge difference in my images. Currently, my wife and I are waiting for the 12 Pro Max's to become available. Don't forget to subscribe and invite your friends to join. I look forward to seeing your images.

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Oct 28, 2020 10:45:00   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
texashill wrote:
To me, the fact that cell phones have modest mega pixel specs is a plus. I believe that it better utilizes the comparatively small sensor and I don't need large images. Occasionally, I will see a bird or deer in the yard that I would like to shoot and closely crop. Big mega pixels would be good then but I suppose that some phones have lenses that can be attached?


I suspect that on most Smartphones today you can attach a specific lens. Currently I have a 60mm Moment lens for my IPhone 8 plus. I haven't used it much but when I do, the phone is mounted on a tripod to help prevent image shake. In my opinion, DSLR's with specific telephoto lenses are the best choice for wildlife photography.

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Oct 28, 2020 10:50:56   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Marianne M Banks wrote:
Thank you for starting this section Fstop12.
I’m looking forward to learning a lot and having fun.
I’m currently using an old iPhone 6s and in the process of deciding between a 12 pro vs 12 pro max.
Any input regarding the decision?


Hi, Marianne. As long as you’re going for the iPhone12, for a modest increase in price, why not spring for the 12 Pro Max. It promises to be an amazing camera.

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Oct 28, 2020 10:52:35   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Fstop12 wrote:
I suspect that on most Smartphones today you can attach a specific lens. Currently I have a 60mm Moment lens for my IPhone 8 plus. I haven't used it much but when I do, the phone is mounted on a tripod to help prevent image shake. In my opinion, DSLR's with specific telephoto lenses are the best choice for wildlife photography.


Agreed, regarding wildlife photography. But they’re great for landscapes, flowers and people.

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Oct 28, 2020 10:53:05   #
texashill Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
Marianne M Banks wrote:
Thank you for starting this section Fstop12.
I’m looking forward to learning a lot and having fun.
I’m currently using an old iPhone 6s and in the process of deciding between a 12 pro vs 12 pro max.
Any input regarding the decision?


Hi Marianne, I believe that the 12 pro max will have RAW processing and the others will not. I went for years reading on this forum about the power of RAW and ignoring the advice. Then one day I tried it. I am a realtor and was taking interior photos of a foreclosed house that had no electricity; very challenging dynamic range :-) I was shocked to see the shadow areas become enlighten in post processing. My Cannon G1 X Mark II with 18x14 sensor was now MUCH more powerful! I am not an expert and have come here to learn and not to teach but I believe that the big issue with smartphone photography will be how to work around the small sensors. I believe that Apple will have great resources to cleverly design around that limitation. 12 pro max sensor is 47% larger, it has RAW processing, it has Lidar. I don't even know what Lidar is but the others don't have it and I just get the vibe that it will be an important difference. Hopefully, some of the true experts that we are blessed to be posting with will comment.

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Oct 28, 2020 11:03:43   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Here’s a screenshot with a definition of Lidar.



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Oct 28, 2020 11:07:01   #
texashill Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
Fstop12 wrote:
I suspect that on most Smartphones today you can attach a specific lens. Currently I have a 60mm Moment lens for my IPhone 8 plus. I haven't used it much but when I do, the phone is mounted on a tripod to help prevent image shake. In my opinion, DSLR's with specific telephoto lenses are the best choice for wildlife photography.


I imagine that DSLR's with specific lens is best for ALL photography :-) but we are here to close the gap and I surely do appreciate your effort and want to join others in expressing thanks. Image shake is another issue that came to my mind, along with small sensor size, when considering smartphone photography. I have an iphone 7 plus and have only used the camera for messaging but have never noticed a blur the way that I can get with my regular camera. I figured it must be set on a fast shutter speed. All I know is that a phone does not feel nearly as stable in my hand as does a camera and I wonder if image shake is going to be an issue?

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Oct 28, 2020 11:09:39   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
texashill wrote:
Hi Marianne, I believe that the 12 pro max will have RAW processing and the others will not. I went for years reading on this forum about the power of RAW and ignoring the advice. Then one day I tried it. I am a realtor and was taking interior photos of a foreclosed house that had no electricity; very challenging dynamic range :-) I was shocked to see the shadow areas become enlighten in post processing. My Cannon G1 X Mark II with 18x14 sensor was now MUCH more powerful! I am not an expert and have come here to learn and not to teach but I believe that the big issue with smartphone photography will be how to work around the small sensors. I believe that Apple will have great resources to cleverly design around that limitation. 12 pro max sensor is 47% larger, it has RAW processing, it has Lidar. I don't even know what Lidar is but the others don't have it and I just get the vibe that it will be an important difference. Hopefully, some of the true experts that we are blessed to be posting with will comment.
Hi Marianne, I believe that the 12 pro max will ha... (show quote)


Agree about the 12 Pro Max. I most likely will wait until they are out for awhile before I upgrade.

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Oct 28, 2020 11:10:08   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Agreed, regarding wildlife photography. But they’re great for landscapes, flowers and people.



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Oct 28, 2020 14:07:18   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
Is this section for posting smart phone images or just for discussion? I've got a few good smartphone images but don't want to post them here if this is for discussion only.

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