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Oct 23, 2020 09:09:22   #
incognito
 
TriX wrote:
I won’t be watching/posting further because this has been moved to the attic where it belonged in the beginning, but I have to say, have you actually watched the president’s rallies and speech’s and actually believe and can say with a straight face that the hatred is coming from the left? Really?


What planet do you live on? Bizzaro world? Just to refresh you wittle bwain the real hatred started the day after Hillary lost. The Impeachment process started the day he was sworn in.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:37:01   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Texcaster wrote:
You're always on about THAT vid. The way you spend your time is a worry. No one normal supports this fringe stuff. Why do you carry on like it's mainstream Libtard policy?

Try on Trump's 220,000 covid dead ... that's about as mainstream as it gets pilgrim.


Well when you keep talking about grabbing the by the p. I like to remind how low the left has sunk

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Oct 23, 2020 12:18:05   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
robertjerl wrote:
I had a professor (an exchange from the University of Mumbai(Bombay) who taught History of the British Empire.

He stated that the British Empire and the US needed both the liberals and the conservatives.
He said the Liberals kept coming up with new ideas but seldom had the practical government skills to finance and implement them or distinguish the good from the bad ideas.
The Conservatives were usually content to not change things that already worked but would carefully observe, decide which ideas were good and then had the skills to implement them.

He also said that as long as the two sides just thought of the other as "different" things worked fine. It was when they started to see the other side as "the enemy" that the real problems started.
I had a professor (an exchange from the University... (show quote)


I heard that too. Yes, now the equation has changed. The Liberals have become Leftists. They want total transformation of the country.

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Oct 23, 2020 13:45:39   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I heard that too. Yes, now the equation has changed. The Liberals have become Leftists. They want total transformation of the country.


barack said he would do it he did but not for the betterment..

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Oct 23, 2020 13:57:24   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
buckwheat wrote:
When I turned 21 I registered as a Republican. I did so because I grew up in a Republican household and my father had a sole-proprietor business. He wanted the independence and freedom to succeed or fail on his own. After the Air Force and Viet Nam and then college, I remained a Republican. Even though I went to work in the corporate world I tried several different ways to start a business and become independent. Sometimes my attempts succeeded and other times not, but my growing alcoholism forced me to "keep my day job". After getting sober, I started my own business, owned several income properties and did quite well, without government help. Not exactly rags to riches, but from paycheck dependent to successful.
If I had adopted the Democrat dogma, I would have lost my job, gone on disability, continued my alcoholism, been dependent on government programs, remained on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder, and blamed someone else on my condition.
I believe the Republicans on the lower levels of the economy remain republicans because they still believe they can move up, or at least independent and not become attached to and dependent on the government teat. I have over-simplified this and know that there are many stories from the left wing and the right wing.
But the right wing and the left wing both belong on the same bird!
When I turned 21 I registered as a Republican. I ... (show quote)


Well said. Short version, because they are neither stupid nor leaches.

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Oct 23, 2020 14:59:39   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
rmalarz wrote:
Congratulations, first off. Well done.

I was brought up in a democrat family. JFK was the last democratic president I supported, though too young to vote and would be until 1969. So, the election of 1970 was my first shot at voting. After voting for or against winners over the next several elections, I changed to being an independent. More recently, I've observed the democrats seemed to look at me as a source of income for the government and found "better" ways to spend it than I could.

Recently, we received a reduction in taxes and I could actually purchase a few things I'd like to have and put money into savings. That worked out well. I dread to think about what it might cost me to see a change in the current government. I'd probably seriously think about retiring, as then I wouldn't have the tax burden with which to concern myself. So, I'll continue to be independent but most likely vote for the republicans.
--Bob
Congratulations, first off. Well done. br br I w... (show quote)

Something I have observed over the years is that young people fresh out of school seem to have a far more liberal view of life and the world around them.
As they go through the years full of life's ups and downs, their outlook becomes more and more conservative.

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Oct 23, 2020 15:43:42   #
buckwheat Loc: Clarkdale, AZ and Belen NM
 
BBurns wrote:
Something I have observed over the years is that young people fresh out of school seem to have a far more liberal view of life and the world around them.
As they go through the years full of life's ups and downs, their outlook becomes more and more conservative.


I have read that if you're a liberal over 30, you just haven't been mugged yet.

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Oct 23, 2020 15:51:37   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
rmalarz wrote:
Congratulations, first off. Well done.

I was brought up in a democrat family. JFK was the last democratic president I supported, though too young to vote and would be until 1969. So, the election of 1970 was my first shot at voting. After voting for or against winners over the next several elections, I changed to being an independent. More recently, I've observed the democrats seemed to look at me as a source of income for the government and found "better" ways to spend it than I could.

Recently, we received a reduction in taxes and I could actually purchase a few things I'd like to have and put money into savings. That worked out well. I dread to think about what it might cost me to see a change in the current government. I'd probably seriously think about retiring, as then I wouldn't have the tax burden with which to concern myself. So, I'll continue to be independent but most likely vote for the republicans.
--Bob
Congratulations, first off. Well done. br br I w... (show quote)


I view the difference between the Democratic economic model and the Republican economic model in an analogy where a Democrat and a Republican are on a roof and a fellow who on the ground wants to join them.

The Democrat lowers a rope and tells the fellow to hang on tight and when he does the Democrat only pulls him up part of the way and holds him there. The fellow has to hold on dependent on the Democrat with fear that he would let go of the rope and he would fall. Now he's stuck there forever.

In contrast the Republican lowers a ladder and tells the fellow to use it to climb his way up to join him.

The Republican economy is providing ways for people to work their way up the ladder. The Democratic economy is providing just enough to keep people dependent on those provisions and instilling the fear that if they don't continue to vote to keep the Democrats in power that what little they are given will be taken away.

Republicans are more about freedoms of individuals and Democrats are more about the causes they support.

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Oct 23, 2020 19:47:02   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
buckwheat wrote:
The premise of my statement is in response to those who wonder why, if the Republican party is the one of the 1%, why are poor people Republican. The only way to comment on a large group of people is with generalizations, sometimes sweeping. Everyone, including me, can give countless examples of people who don't fit that generalization. But I believe the answer to the question is that a whole bunch of people, regardless of economic status still want the freedom to succeed or fail on their own merits, without government intervention!
The premise of my statement is in response to thos... (show quote)



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Oct 23, 2020 19:49:17   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"If I had adopted the Democrat dogma, I would have lost my job, gone on disability, continued my alcoholism, been dependent on government programs, remained on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder, and blamed someone else on my condition."

What a pathetically stupid, asinine. thing to say.
Do you really believe that is the democratic dogma, or did you just get carried away in your ramblings.


That's funny. I've seen you do exactly the same. Is what you say "pathetically stupid,asinine thing to say"?

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Oct 23, 2020 19:50:14   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
boberic wrote:
I was a JFK "liberal". Today his politics would be closer to republican, than democrat. I am offended by far left (todays) liberal, progressive, democrats. THey can't or won't see the difference between good intemtions and good results. War on poverty had good intentions, but terrible results. It took away incentives and pushed more people into poverty. And the money (over 1 billion) was sucked up by the bureaucracy. The liberal welfare program--Devestated the black familly and abortion has virtually destroyed it. I am in favor of less government. Todays far left (Most current democrats) want more government control. Free public education, free (single payer) health care, higher taxes. I know that these are generalizations, but they are closer to the truth than I am willing to accept. The hatred on either side is self destructive. And it comes mostly (but not all) from the left.
I was a JFK "liberal". Today his politic... (show quote)



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Oct 23, 2020 19:51:05   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
BBurns wrote:
Something I have observed over the years is that young people fresh out of school seem to have a far more liberal view of life and the world around them.
As they go through the years full of life's ups and downs, their outlook becomes more and more conservative.


you are exactly right..I was raised democrat but thankfully outgrew it..

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Oct 23, 2020 19:51:48   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Texcaster wrote:
No, it's Trump. He's presided over the debasement of public and private life in America.

Chance - "D'you wanna tell'em Stumpy?"

Stumpy - "Grandma never knew about pussy grabbin' ner golden showers before Mr Babylon pilgrim."



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Oct 23, 2020 19:52:51   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
soba1 wrote:
Really so I guess you call transgender reading hour to little children ok.
Gender neutral bathrooms just fine
An 11 yr old drag queen dancing at a strip club ok too huh
https://youtu.be/hgq7MNasA9Q
All promoted by the Dems



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Oct 23, 2020 19:55:11   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Texcaster wrote:
You're always on about THAT vid. The way you spend your time is a worry. No one normal supports this fringe stuff. Why do you carry on like it's mainstream Libtard policy?

Try on Trump's 220,000 covid dead ... that's about as mainstream as it gets pilgrim.


All of you harping on this fake figure is amusing. If a guy died of polio you would call it covoid and blame Trump.

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