Navy question..
Sep 16, 2020 09:58:55 #
Schoee
Loc: Europe
This is a very old question with many theories as to what makes something a boat or ship. The best answer I have seen is that boats lean into the turn and ships lean outwards. So a submarine would be a boat in this as it rolls into a turn like an aircraft. Typical speed boats also lean in whereas a cruise ship leans outwards.
Sep 16, 2020 10:16:47 #
Things do change regarding terminology. Was an HS squadron ATN in the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club on the Yorktown. She was commissioned in ‘44 and is now at Patriots Point in Charleston. She would fit on the flight deck of a Ford class CVN — but not sure I’d call the old girl a boat. 😉
Sep 16, 2020 10:26:29 #
Manglesphoto wrote:
Then why is a Submarine called a boat ? 
One of the early nicknames for submarines was "pig boat". The nickname was shortened to "boat", and it stuck. Here's a reference to how the names evolved:
http://www.pigboats.com/dave1.html
Sep 16, 2020 11:00:10 #
47greyfox wrote:
As an ex-sub sailor, I can confidently say that ships are targets and submarines are boats.
Then you'll recognize my bird
Sep 16, 2020 11:02:10 #
Shellback wrote:
Then you'll recognize my bird
We used to have a hide and seek ops with AWS birds such as yours. They would do pretty well after we told them where we were.
Sep 16, 2020 11:09:12 #
47greyfox wrote:
As an ex-sub sailor, I can confidently say that ships are targets and submarines are boats.
My brother was a career sub sailor. He said the same thing.Sep 16, 2020 11:13:13 #
On a slightly different note; The Army has more boats than the Navy does. The Navy has more aircraft than the Air Force does.
Sep 16, 2020 11:14:35 #
Shellback wrote:
Then you'll recognize my bird
Roger that! Sometimes the Subs are targets.
Sep 16, 2020 11:14:42 #
kenpic
Loc: Edmonds, WA
A few more factoids: How does one remember "Port" from "Starboard?" Port and left both have four letters. And that Port used to be called "larboard", but in a storm it was difficult to hear, so they began to use Port. And the running lights (red and green) can be remembered because port wine is red.
Sep 16, 2020 11:23:52 #
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
In 1964 I was aboard a destroyer at sea and I had to stand a electronic countermeasures watch. With an ancient Radar receiver. I had to check the Pulse Repetition Rate and frequency of radar signals. Checking the book of PRR and frequency, I determined what I was picking up was a Russian submarine. It was gone in 10 or 15 minutes. I told the Lt. on duty, but I never heard anything else about it.
Sep 16, 2020 11:23:57 #
Shellback wrote:
Then you'll recognize my bird
Orion?
Sep 16, 2020 12:12:22 #
Mac wrote:
Orion?
Yes P-3 Orion soon to be gone and replaced by the P-8.
Sep 16, 2020 12:33:14 #
As a Marine attached to the 6th Fleet I got a kick out of how pissed off the Gator Navy guys got when I’d thank them for the boat ride😊
Sep 16, 2020 12:55:58 #
Hal81 wrote:
While in the navy during the Korean war I was asked whats the difference between a boat and a ship? I said ok Ill bite what is the ans. He replied "A boat can be carried on a ship but a ship cant be carried on a boat"....
Generally you are correct...except for submarines which are still referred to as boats or ships depending on what you’re doing and the standard terminology is different. For instance...lDiving Officer, submerge the ship” and “Chief of the Watch, pressure in the boat?”
I did subs for 15 years and never did figure out why they were different... it it was always ship for some things and boat for others. All were hangovers from the early days of diesel submarines...along with the Model T horn for the aoooga aoooga of the diving alarm...which was also the surfacing alarm. The standard diving alarm is now an electronic version of the original...but lots of boats have the old style one installed and it is used whenever the admiral is not on board.
Sep 16, 2020 12:57:18 #
47greyfox wrote:
As an ex-sub sailor, I can confidently say that ships are targets and submarines are boats.
There are only two types of ships...submarines and targets.
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