davidf_logan wrote:
I am a long time Canon user. I bought a Nikon D610 for a friend in the UK because it was on sale at B&H. Then he changed his mind because we hadn't thought through customs duty etc. So, I was going to send it back unopened. I opened it and fell in love. I don't prefer it to my Canon 5D IV or vice versa. Just different.
Mirrorless have their place but an OVF is irreplaceable.
Spoken by someone who clearly has not used an EVF, nor seemingly, understands the importance of turning your lenses clockwise when mounting.
I have an EVF camera and have had several (Panasonic and Sony) and I love them, mainly because it makes the cameras light. I suggest you restrain from projection and grow up a bit. I just prefer OVFs.
Guys...there ain’t anything with mirrorless...or DSLRs..or Canon or Nikon. This whole debate is just another Ford or Chevy argument...or the FF vs crop sensor debate. What actually matters is what each of us needs to make the images we want to make...be it FF, crop, DSLR, mirrorless, or whatever. We each have different needs, requirements, physical, and bipudget requirements...and despite it all we should do what we need or want. I never means of this guy...and it doesn’t matter to me at all what he does.
We all need to chill and make more images.
Not for me! I am keeping my D850, D800e until they (or I) die! All I need with my F-mount Nikon glass. At 85 I don't think I am going to need anything else.
Who can have a positive attitude with inferior equipment?
I absolutely agree. I was not trying to provoke an argument and was just making your point, really, that images are what matter, not whether it is Nikon or Canon. I like all my cameras, including film. I use EVFs a lot but, admittedly not having the latest, still prefer OVFs.
A good photographer, to answer your question.
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You consistently push this fallacy that Nikon is falling behind in mirrorless. Yes both Nikon and Canon got a late start in mirrorless but both have made great advances. There are things There are things each brand does better. Pretty much all the issues with Nikon’s initial release have been fixed with firmware updates. Each company has recently released a new camera. Both Canon and Sony have gone more video centric, with Canon’s big feature being 8K video. It’s a camera with impressive specs but has also already had some serious issues. And really for most of us 8K is overkill. Unless you’re shooting professional video why would you shoot 8K. The files are huge and I wouldn’t want to process them without a professional video workstation. Really 4K is overkill for most people. Sony’s new entry is a real head scratcher, it’s basically a video camera. In 2020 and going forward nobody is gonna buy a 12mp camera for stills. Nikon took a different approach and went with an entry level FF camera that is geared to still photography. It’ll still do better video than most DSLR’s but it’s designed to get people that don’t want to drop $2000 plus on a new camera into mirrorless. Nikon developed the best and most flexible mount system that really opens up the door for advances in lens design and there’s even conjecture that it could support a medium format body someday.
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Two items, First the Nikon mount is new to Nikon. The Canon RF mount is 1mm smaller that means 1/2mm on each side which is imperceptible. Thus it has no intrinsic superiority over other mounts. It is just 30 years late in growing up and catching up. Second Nikon is still struggling with AF speed on the Z cameras compared to the DPAF II now available that is demonstrably faster and more accurate.
That said Nikon has done well and is starting to catch up, they make a good solid general perform=ing product in the Z system currently and it will get better as time goes by.
But the mount by today's standards is pretty normal.
digitalnut wrote:
What are your feelings about this? Do you think he is doing the right thing and have you also done this or have thought about dumping all your Nikon gear? Curious to hear your thoughts and opinions. Nikon certainly is behind in the mirrorless category in my opinion. They also don’t seem to be, nor will they be, supporting the crop sensor photographers in the future with mirrorless cameras or glass.
Matt Granger's video is just a nice subtle ad for selling your old cmaeras and lenses to KEH. I am sure he got a nice price for doing this ad, more than I would certainly get if I were to sell my old equipment. Granger sent out a follow up email today to reinforce his actions were not a knock on Nikon. YouTube creators need to generate foot traffic to their videos, so the more dramatic the headline the better. "I am Dumping Nikon" will generate more traffic than "I am Doing an Ad for KEH."
Architect1776 wrote:
Two items, First the Nikon mount is new to Nikon. The Canon RF mount is 1mm smaller that means 1/2mm on each side which is imperceptible. Thus it has no intrinsic superiority over other mounts. It is just 30 years late in growing up and catching up. Second Nikon is still struggling with AF speed on the Z cameras compared to the DPAF II now available that is demonstrably faster and more accurate.
That said Nikon has done well and is starting to catch up, they make a good solid general perform=ing product in the Z system currently and it will get better as time goes by.
But the mount by today's standards is pretty normal.
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I hope you are right as I would like to buy a Nikon mirrorless body that is clearly better than the D850 so I can continue to use the 16 Nikon lenses I have, but the photography division is loosing a lot of money. I wonder how much longer the Nikon corporation will support them? I will stay hopeful, but concerned and cautious until that situation resolves itself.
digitalnut wrote:
What are your feelings about this? Do you think he is doing the right thing and have you also done this or have thought about dumping all your Nikon gear? Curious to hear your thoughts and opinions. Nikon certainly is behind in the mirrorless category in my opinion. They also don’t seem to be, nor will they be, supporting the crop sensor photographers in the future with mirrorless cameras or glass.
Never heard of him and I don't care what camera he uses.
Strodav wrote:
I hope you are right as I would like to buy a Nikon mirrorless body that is clearly better than the D850 so I can continue to use the 16 Nikon lenses I have, but the photography division is loosing a lot of money. I wonder how much longer the Nikon corporation will support them? I will stay hopeful, but concerned and cautious until that situation resolves itself.
I have NO worry about Nikon going away.
A good basic product for hobbyists, and some pros.
Their optics are amazing mostly.
Cameras are well built and last.
They just need to catch up with the on sensor AF.
Just be aware that only newer AFs lenses work on the Z cameras. The AF will not AF on a Z camera so that is a huge problem Nikon does have with current F mount owners.
davidf_logan wrote:
A good photographer, to answer your question.
David, use the "Quote Reply" button so we know to whom you are responding!
digitalnut wrote:
What are your feelings about this? Do you think he is doing the right thing and have you also done this or have thought about dumping all your Nikon gear? Curious to hear your thoughts and opinions. Nikon certainly is behind in the mirrorless category in my opinion. They also don’t seem to be, nor will they be, supporting the crop sensor photographers in the future with mirrorless cameras or glass.
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When I shot 35mm I had Nikons. (Started with a Voightlander [that I got in the PX in Korea] but soon switched, don't remember the model) When I moved to digital I went with Canon. A 5Dc. The reason is lost in the mists of the past. Never disappointed with either though. Still have an F in a drawer somewhere, surrounded by too many Canon lens. :-) Harry PS "Too many" because of multiple GAS attacks.
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