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Aug 3, 2020 11:42:06   #
no12mo
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)


I am a great fan of taking time to get it right the first time (birders with fast moving birds excluded and sports pics, etc.). I'm a minimalist when it comes to PP.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:43:35   #
no12mo
 
User ID wrote:
I tent too desargree ........



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Aug 3, 2020 11:47:22   #
no12mo
 
Bill_de wrote:
Sometimes you have to to make room for the nose, particularly when the nose is a distinguishing feature.



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Aug 3, 2020 11:55:40   #
old poet
 
I think, for myself, it is always the challenge to improve our skill, our artistic expression that drives us always forward. There will always be a next level.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:56:22   #
no12mo
 
Harry0 wrote:
It's ... all the above.
If I had film in my 6x9 camera, I'd be careful of how I took that next shot.
The 6x6 and the 35mm were better, at 12 shots per roll. Still careful.
That was me then. Now?
I take my Nikon out, 500 shots left? Focus, shoot. Bangity bang.
I can cull and PP later.
Kids and iPhones? No worries. They gots a iCloud app for that.


Just to pick out one of your points - "Kids and IPhones": sure - they have an app for that. Recently I got a pic from a friend of mine of the Newwise Comet. The app made the pic worse not better. It added noise, did a little improvement on contrast and I'm still trying to figure out what the rounded corners on the image that the app added did for the pic.

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Aug 3, 2020 11:58:24   #
no12mo
 
Delderby wrote:
A bad workman blames his tool


Point taken

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Aug 3, 2020 12:00:06   #
no12mo
 
Architect1776 wrote:

When for personal use totally agree.
Here is a photo of some family at the turn of the last century.
Far more valuable than any tack sharp eye taken today.
But it was a family snapshot to record an event.
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


Wonderful picture. Even the stains add to the age of the photo. Well stated.

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Aug 3, 2020 12:07:04   #
balancr Loc: VA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Tastes change, what's "cool" changes.

(I can't stand cutting the top inch or three off of someone's head for a portrait.
But that's just my taste.)

And "perfect" is relative.


The best part about being a photographer is that you can shoot people and cut their heads off without going to jail!

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Aug 3, 2020 12:57:19   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Longshadow wrote:
(I can't stand cutting the top inch or three off of someone's head for a portrait.
But that's just my taste.)


imagemeister wrote:
- it should be illegal !


I am in complete agreement with your comments. I saw a photographer who claimed to be trained and a professional do that with some photos and said it was the new popular and expected thing for portraits. I did not like it then and do not like it now. It wasn't many years ago that people were severely criticized for doing it. Cutting off the top of someone's head in a photo was a source of humiliation.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:14:31   #
bkwaters
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)


When quest for perfect photo takes away excessively from time spent with family and friends, or time spent getting adequate sleep and exercise, the photo is "Too Good".

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Aug 3, 2020 13:25:35   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
GreenHam wrote:
When I look at paintings, I see that there is room for a wide variety of styles to be considered "good".
Picasso
Monet
Basquiat
All of these are considered really good even though they don't show people and life in a sharp and literal way.

Rembrandt
Davinci
These are much closer to what your eyes would see, but still have an artistic mood and flavor...

People have their personal preferences, but the art world itself recognizes a large variety of different styles as being "good".

I think the original poster might be saying that the photography world seems to be moving toward appreciating and valuing a smaller and smaller variety of styles.

Ultra sharp and perfectly centered photos ARE "really good", but I personally miss ALSO seeing more mood, texture, lighting, and experimentation as well.

I personally like variety, both in photography, and painting.
When I look at paintings, I see that there is room... (show quote)


To me, art (painting, drawing, sketching, etc.) is fine when abstract, impressionistic and all the other forms, but photography should be closer to realism and truthful. I remember the saying, "Photographs do not lie," and "A picture is worth a thousand words." Today with computers, we can make such changes in photographs that they become something totally different from the original. We can even make a realistic photo from nothing.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:52:39   #
pshane
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)


At 75yrs young, I still have B&W Photos that I took in the 4th & 5th grades that got me interested in Photography in the first place. - Altho some are not 'Perfect', they can still bring a smile to my face, - so yeah, maybe somewhat 'Lower Standards' but if your pics bring you joy, then ENJOY them!

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Aug 3, 2020 13:58:10   #
old poet
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
To me, art (painting, drawing, sketching, etc.) is fine when abstract, impressionistic and all the other forms, but photography should be closer to realism and truthful. I remember the saying, "Photographs do not lie," and "A picture is worth a thousand words." Today with computers, we can make such changes in photographs that they become something totally different from the original. We can even make a realistic photo from nothing.


I agree completely, unless the objective is photo art, using PP tools as artist's pallet and brushes.

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Aug 3, 2020 14:33:04   #
NRB
 
A goodly number of Bresson's image are slightly out of focus.

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Aug 3, 2020 14:35:53   #
srg
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you have to lower your expectations to fit your results, so be it.


👍

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