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Aug 2, 2020 11:46:03   #
Lukabulla
 
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?

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Aug 2, 2020 11:54:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Tastes change, what's "cool" changes.

(I can't stand cutting the top inch or three off of someone's head for a portrait.
But that's just my taste.)

And "perfect" is relative.

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Aug 2, 2020 11:58:29   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
I'm satisfied with most of my images but I've often thought that a professional photographer could probably pick them apart over things I would consider nit picky. If you're not a professional and are content with your results that's all that matters. I see countless images on google maps that are horrible so that tells me most point and shooters don't give a whit about image quality. Whether you strive for perfection or not is entirely up to you. What others do with their images should concern only them.

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Aug 2, 2020 12:07:08   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)


I think you are talking about changes in what people want rather than changes in quality which remain the same.

I look back at old Nikon, Hasselblad or Canon ads and see fantastic photographs that would still be fantastic today, good sharp photographs that anyone would be proud to submit for evaluation. Lenses and cameras back then were top of the line and still are. Many of us have posted photographs taken either with digital cameras or film cameras using older lenses and are pleased with the results.

Dennis

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Aug 2, 2020 12:11:59   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you have to lower your expectations to fit your results, so be it.

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Aug 2, 2020 12:12:46   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Longshadow wrote:
(I can't stand cutting the top inch or three off of someone's head for a portrait.
But that's just my taste.)


- it should be illegal !

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Aug 2, 2020 12:22:27   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Tastes change, what's "cool" changes.

(I can't stand cutting the top inch or three off of someone's head for a portrait.
But that's just my taste.)

And "perfect" is relative.


What Longshadow said.

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Aug 2, 2020 12:25:09   #
Bob Mevis Loc: Plymouth, Indiana
 
imagemeister wrote:
- it should be illegal !


Amen to that!

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Aug 2, 2020 12:25:26   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)

Perfection has always been the goal or we wouldn't have the technology of today...

bwa

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Aug 2, 2020 12:33:22   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that we have better tools ?

I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc .. which nowdays most photographers having taken such a shot , would class them as rejects and either throw them away or spend endless time trying to get them ' perfect ' ..

Portraits nowdays mostly have to be ' Sparkling with Eyes un naturally sharp ' .. lighting to be exact or added on later in PS , unblemished skin, etc etc ..

Are photos now just ' Too Good ' ?
Are we taking it a bit too far now ? Or is it that... (show quote)


I believe that a lot of photographs today are technically "better," or maybe just realize higher technical capability, "just because they can." As noted, tastes change. I spent quite a bit of money in the 1990s for a soft focus lens for my Mamiya 645. I suspect that a portrait taken with that lens and posted here would be pretty much razzed out the door.

Of course, the notion of what is "ideal" has also changed quite a bit over the past 25 or 30 years, as have expectations of how folks should appear against those ideals.

On the one hand, I think that there isn't anything specifically wrong with working to be as technically competent as possible. On the other hand, not many in my audience care much about how much work was required to capture and produce my 10-exposure panorama of the full arch of the Milky Way over the Chisos Mountains, or that the foreground was illuminated only by starlight. They just know that they like the image and that they have never known anyone else able to create something like it. If I am totally honest, I have to admit that I enjoy basking that sentiment...at least a little bit. When I was doing more HDR photography, they were pretty impressed that I was able to capture both shadow and highlight detail, which they were very conscious that they couldn't do. They really didn't care that doing it required capturing 5 or 7 nearly identical images, then using special software to put everything together and "make it pretty."

On the other hand, no one that was not a judge or designated critic has ever fussed about a photograph that wasn't drastically sharp or that wasn't perfectly color corrected or that had some other minor technical flaw.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy using well-designed and well-functioning equipment. I enjoy learning how to use as many of the capabilities of that equipment as possible. I less enjoy making a lot of minute adjustments in post processing. My belief is that many of us, and many of those who view our work, don't see well enough to fret over absolute sharpness or absolute anything else. Hey...a third of the people that you know have some level of color blindness.

So while I think it's fine to work to do the very best that we can, it is important to remember that there is a point beyond which it really doesn't matter. It's pretty much the same question as how fast a computer do you need? Certainly there is a case to be made that faster is always better. But there is an equally valid case that says there is a point beyond which you can't tell the difference. My suggestion is to aim for perfection but to chill out if and when you fall a little bit short.

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Aug 2, 2020 12:40:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
imagemeister wrote:
- it should be illegal !


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Aug 2, 2020 12:57:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Photography is easy when you don’t know how, but very difficult when you do.

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Aug 2, 2020 13:08:08   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
When a portrait no longer looks like the person it represents, then perhaps yes, the editing went a little too far.

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Aug 2, 2020 13:34:01   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Lukabulla wrote:
.....I see ' classic ' photos from the 50's / 60's some great portraits of stars , street life , etc ..........


Film made us all tolerant of all sorts of things. Not only was the medium more limited in its capabilities, there were less opportunities for recovery in PP, no instant review while shooting and every exposure cost money.

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Aug 2, 2020 13:44:10   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
rook2c4 wrote:
When a portrait no longer looks like the person it represents, then perhaps yes, the editing went a little too far.


Unless the subject of the portrait feels it meets their perception of what they look like.

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