DSLR vs. Mirrorless (yes I know this has been done to death)
Jul 18, 2020 07:30:24 #
Jul 18, 2020 07:32:18 #
Jul 18, 2020 08:47:43 #
starlifter wrote:
The bottom one has better color. I wish I had a vacillating problem.
But we don't know the camera settings. In camera sharpening, saturation, white balance and any number of things can effect the outcome. Even raw files may be influenced, depending on the software. From the lack of info and the OP's responses throughout, I'd say this was a very successful exercise in trolling.
Just my opinion of course.
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Jul 18, 2020 08:49:24 #
Re your comparison points --#3 under Nikon , Shouldn't that be under Fuji? Nikon Long telephotos are superb but they are multiples of the cost of the Fuji lenses.
Since Both cameras can produce objectively excellent results, why split hairs over the last bit of Performance, if your goal is to get rid of one of the systems? It seems to me your preference is toward the lighter more portable system, just do it.
But if you are going to second guess yourself, and wish you hadn't sold the Nikon, keep it ( and stop worrying about it) Do what makes YOU happy.
I'm speculating here, but it sounds like you feel like you really don't NEED two systems, but LIKE them both. But Each is also good enough to be your only system so you have a dilemma.
There is an old Chinese Proverb 'The man with one watch Always knows the time, the man with two watches NEVER knows'
Every time you go out to take pictures you need yo make a decision about which to use, when you are out shooting, you'll think 'I should have brought the other one'. Having one system removes all that and lets you concentrate on PICTURES.
If You do decide to let go of the Nikon, I'd advise you to do it now while it is still Nikon's Top Camera.
You could also sell the Nikon System and the Fuji Body and replace it with an H1 to gain a faster , pro grade camera with IBIS.
Whatever decision you make, don't look back, or second guess yourself. There will ALWAYS be other cameras that are "better" than yours in some way. Worrying about that is a fools errand.
And lastly, if you are going to have two cameras, make them as different as possible ---a main system and a super portable walk around camera . You built two systems that were both good at the same thing.
(An H1 and an X100T ???) (or a Nikon D850 & X100 T)
Since Both cameras can produce objectively excellent results, why split hairs over the last bit of Performance, if your goal is to get rid of one of the systems? It seems to me your preference is toward the lighter more portable system, just do it.
But if you are going to second guess yourself, and wish you hadn't sold the Nikon, keep it ( and stop worrying about it) Do what makes YOU happy.
I'm speculating here, but it sounds like you feel like you really don't NEED two systems, but LIKE them both. But Each is also good enough to be your only system so you have a dilemma.
There is an old Chinese Proverb 'The man with one watch Always knows the time, the man with two watches NEVER knows'
Every time you go out to take pictures you need yo make a decision about which to use, when you are out shooting, you'll think 'I should have brought the other one'. Having one system removes all that and lets you concentrate on PICTURES.
If You do decide to let go of the Nikon, I'd advise you to do it now while it is still Nikon's Top Camera.
You could also sell the Nikon System and the Fuji Body and replace it with an H1 to gain a faster , pro grade camera with IBIS.
Whatever decision you make, don't look back, or second guess yourself. There will ALWAYS be other cameras that are "better" than yours in some way. Worrying about that is a fools errand.
And lastly, if you are going to have two cameras, make them as different as possible ---a main system and a super portable walk around camera . You built two systems that were both good at the same thing.
(An H1 and an X100T ???) (or a Nikon D850 & X100 T)
Jul 18, 2020 09:06:27 #
Bill_de wrote:
But we don't know the camera settings. In camera sharpening, saturation, white balance and any number of things can effect the outcome. Even raw files may be influenced, depending on the software. From the lack of info and the OP's responses throughout, I'd say this was a very successful exercise in trolling.
Just my opinion of course.
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Just my opinion of course.
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Another sad case of failure to “get it”.
While UHH does have modest value as a source of advice and such, it’s greatest value is entertainment. Enjoy !!!
Jul 18, 2020 09:11:51 #
User ID wrote:
Another sad case of failure to “get it”.
While UHH does have modest value as a source of advice and such, it’s primary value is entertainment. Enjoy !!!
While UHH does have modest value as a source of advice and such, it’s primary value is entertainment. Enjoy !!!
But I do get it. I said it was very successful for what it is. If it wasn't entertaining I would not have continued reading it. Even your response made me smile.
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Jul 18, 2020 10:15:27 #
Bill_de wrote:
But I do get it. I said it was very successful for what it is. If it wasn't entertaining I would not have continued reading it. Even your response made me smile.
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So, seems I was mistaken in directing my reply to you. Hopefully it will open the eyes/mind of someone who does need a hint and will benefit by it.
I should not have said “another case of ...” cuz that focuses only on you. Better to say “people, please realize ...”.
No harm no foul ?
Jul 18, 2020 10:33:40 #
I will just repeat what has already been said numerous times. Regardless of the title of the post, this has really nothing to do with DSLR vs mirrorless and everything to do with 45 vs 26MP, different sensor technology, different lenses and different AWB, and complicated further by very long exposures which can be subject to vibration, etc, etc. - too many variables to draw any conclusions except that both camera systems deliver excellent results. I would add that in general, Fuji’s top lenses are the equal of the Nikon’s in performance and price (take note of Fuji’s 6K$ 200mm f2 for example), and for a given FL and speed, typically about 2/3 the weight, although the number of native Fuji lenses is certainly smaller than Nikon.
Jul 18, 2020 10:34:22 #
Bill_de wrote:
Mr. Williams,
I think you might be wrong. I have read this post several times and have found no, zero, nada reason for a snappy retort. It all makes sense.
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I think you might be wrong. I have read this post several times and have found no, zero, nada reason for a snappy retort. It all makes sense.
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His top image is blurry and the color is way off. No camera or lens today it that bad.
Jul 18, 2020 10:39:03 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
If “the winner is clearly the Nikon” why would you continue to vacillate?
When I left Olympic and Panasonic and switched to Nikon with each successive camera I thought I had the cat's meow. I now have the D850 and can't imagine a better camera for stills. Maybe when the next one comes out I will see a need I don't now have but for now I can't imagine another camera that would be better than the 850. Is it big? Yeah, so what. Is it heavy? Yeah, so what. Does it take incredible pictures? Oh yeah!
If I could have any camera for free, I would rather just keep my D850.
Jul 18, 2020 10:46:05 #
burkphoto wrote:
Amen to that last statement. I think you'll be quite impressed with the Fujifilm X-series. They have a pool of excellent lenses, and their JPEG processor is second to NONE. Their cameras also have an "old school" feel and function to them (buttons, knobs, dials for common functions).
Yes, I have a X-100T, looks like a Lieca Rangefinder. It is taking me a long time to learn though. Vastly different from my collection of Pentax cameras. My needs indicate a Fuji X-T3 at this time. With, 35mm, Macro, 16mm, 85mm. So I really need a full MILC. Old Fujinon large format lenses were considered as good as Nikon, Schneider, Rodenstock, etc., as I recall. If I had a bundle to blow I would likely get a Fuji X medium format camera, the 100MP version and be done with upgrades.
$$$$ Jul 18, 2020 10:52:37 #
Bill_de wrote:
But we don't know the camera settings. In camera sharpening, saturation, white balance and any number of things can effect the outcome. Even raw files may be influenced, depending on the software. From the lack of info and the OP's responses throughout, I'd say this was a very successful exercise in trolling.
Just my opinion of course.
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Just my opinion of course.
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Jul 18, 2020 12:40:10 #
Jul 18, 2020 13:26:40 #
hobbit123 wrote:
I own a DSLR (Nikon D850) and a mirrorless camera ... (show quote)
Is it just me? When I look at both images, the lower one is noticeably sharper when you use the pot handle as a reference.
Jul 18, 2020 17:35:58 #
hobbit123 wrote:
I wasn't really intending to convey meaning, they are simply a comparison in output from two cameras used in similar circumstances. One is better (higher resolution) than the other. If you wanted to create your best work which would you choose based on IQ?
Not enough info
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