DSLR vs. Mirrorless (yes I know this has been done to death)
Jul 17, 2020 15:53:41 #
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Jul 17, 2020 16:02:23 #
Bill_de wrote:
Mr. Williams,
I think you might be wrong. I have read this post several times and have found no, zero, nada reason for a snappy retort. It all makes sense.
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I think you might be wrong. I have read this post several times and have found no, zero, nada reason for a snappy retort. It all makes sense.
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Thanks, just covering myself LOL
Jul 17, 2020 16:06:17 #
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. The “attack dogs” are not mindless vicious beasts. Just guardians of fact, valid advice, and common sense.
Thanks,
Jul 17, 2020 16:22:26 #
lamiaceae wrote:
Bottom line, pointless post to me. I have many so... (show quote)
Amen to that last statement. I think you'll be quite impressed with the Fujifilm X-series. They have a pool of excellent lenses, and their JPEG processor is second to NONE. Their cameras also have an "old school" feel and function to them (buttons, knobs, dials for common functions).
Jul 17, 2020 16:40:24 #
If the primary thing you do with the cameras is shoot birds, why are you testing on Tea pots at 10 seconds?
It sounds to me like you wanted the Fuji to win, or at least be equal so you could justify getting rid of the Nikon. The thing is there is no need to justify it, they are your cameras.
Smaller sensor cameras have advantages in telephoto work, but other things being equal the larger sensor usually wins. But with modern cameras it is not a night and day difference.
The D850 is a really fine camera, it's only possible 'disadvantage' vs the Fuji is size, weight and cost of long lenses. Not a thing wrong with wanting to use a smaller lighter system. But you can't justify it based on quality comparisons. But you don't need to justify it to anyone but yourself. Pick what makes you happy.
It sounds to me like you wanted the Fuji to win, or at least be equal so you could justify getting rid of the Nikon. The thing is there is no need to justify it, they are your cameras.
Smaller sensor cameras have advantages in telephoto work, but other things being equal the larger sensor usually wins. But with modern cameras it is not a night and day difference.
The D850 is a really fine camera, it's only possible 'disadvantage' vs the Fuji is size, weight and cost of long lenses. Not a thing wrong with wanting to use a smaller lighter system. But you can't justify it based on quality comparisons. But you don't need to justify it to anyone but yourself. Pick what makes you happy.
Jul 17, 2020 17:41:16 #
winhto wrote:
I'm my view, a sitting subject is not going to be a good comparison for any means. Instead, it would be better if you could post 2 pictures of BIF taken with your 2 cameras to see which one has a better IQ.
ROTFLMFAO.
Much thanks for that !!!
Jul 17, 2020 17:57:20 #
Flying Three
Loc: Berthoud, CO
Quote:
"Vacillation is good exercise. Just do lots of reps." Bob
I agree with Bob
"Vacillation is good exercise. Just do lots of reps." Bob
I agree with Bob
Jul 17, 2020 18:18:25 #
hobbit123 wrote:
There's not a huge amount in it but the winner is clearly the Nikon (and rightfully so given it's FF status and high megapixel count) but if you didn't have both images side by side to compare I don't think it would be clear cut. They are very close.
So it looks like I'll continue to vacillate :-)
So it looks like I'll continue to vacillate :-)
Your examples are not labeled..., so which is which?
Jul 17, 2020 19:45:33 #
hobbit123
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Beenthere wrote:
Your examples are not labeled..., so which is which?
The one with the higher resolution is the Nikon.
Jul 17, 2020 20:32:47 #
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Jul 17, 2020 21:31:56 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You stripped the EXIF, so we can't begin to assess how worthless this comparison attempt was executed.
Agree. Useless exercise
Jul 17, 2020 21:40:26 #
hobbit123
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
no12mo wrote:
Agree. Useless exercise
Can you really not see the difference between the two by just looking at the screenshots? Why do you need the EXIF data?
Jul 17, 2020 21:41:03 #
Your end photographs have no real meaning for me. They are both kinda similar. For me, the mirrorless feature of a camera helps me get difficult exposures correct (more or less) because I can see a representation of the photo as it might be exposed by looking through the viewfinder. I also use the silent electronic shutter feature on occasion when shooting at events, difficult lighting or whilst dealing with animals (think doing a hike in Africa and coming across a rhino...silent was kind of helpful at that moment.) Other than that, all cameras do is control light hitting a sensor. The attached photo was taken of a small child in a mud hut while his grandmother prepared breakfast. Lighting was very difficult. Being able to see the rough end-product in the viewfinder was immeasurably helpful. Keeping track of the histogram, ETTR, etc. paid off. (As an aside, one goes to Africa for the animals and returns for the people...this was and is true for me. Magnificent people. We will be back.) If starting anew, I'd go mirrorless. If I had a wiz-bang DSLR, I'd stick with that. (BTW, this is about a 12 meg shot from a micro 4/3 camera and a high end lens. The chase for megapixels is ridiculous.)
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