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Jul 16, 2020 21:31:09   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Well, now that you've brought the plague into the conversation, I'd talk her out of any partying and stay home. Actually, I'd talk her out of partying and then take my camera out and do some landscape photos. I'm at least doing that tomorrow.
--Bob
hobbit123 wrote:
I've been put off work due to Covid19 and have exhausted my savings so have no money to hire a pro. Which camera?

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Jul 16, 2020 21:35:54   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
User ID wrote:
Flip a coin ... cuz if you’re gonna do something so utterly toadally stoooopid as actually complying with her request it really doesn’t matter if you bring a Brownie Starmite or an F7 Mark III.


That's what I thought...you haven't got a clue.

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Jul 16, 2020 21:40:54   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
rmalarz wrote:
Well, now that you've brought the plague into the conversation, I'd talk her out of any partying and stay home. Actually, I'd talk her out of partying and then take my camera out and do some landscape photos. I'm at least doing that tomorrow.
--Bob


It's a bit like that old question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" You're damned no matter which answer you give. If you choose the DSLR (because it has the better IQ) you'll be branded as a heretic by the mirrorless zealots but if you pick the mirrorless you'd rightfully be questioned about why you'd choose the camera with the worse IQ. So the presence or absence of a mirror has no bearing on the decision. In this case it would be decided on the sensor (46mp vs. 26mp) or perhaps FF vs. crop sensor.

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Jul 16, 2020 21:47:24   #
User ID
 
hobbit123 wrote:
That's what I thought...you haven't got a clue.


Exactly!

You have provided no clue as to why you chose those two cameras. Therefore I cannot stand in your shoes. You have no clue, so acoarst you give us no clue. Then you ask us help you decide. If that ain’t fun, then tell us what is !

If somehow it were MY assignment and I were offered only those two cameras for my use, I know for sure which one I’d use. But that has nothing to do with how you would choose between them.

You own both, suggesting that you like both of them. OTOH, I despise one of them so my choice is of no value to you.
Your choice to own a camera I despise is likewise no problem to me. I like your other camera ... there’s still hope for you.

Flip a coin and get to work. You already established that results are equal. You further establish that for you there’s no difference in ease of use etc etc by your posing of the question (or nonquestion, flip another coin).

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Jul 16, 2020 23:04:14   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
I like the top photo's colors better, which has everything to do with the sensor and nothing to do with the mirror / EVF.

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Jul 16, 2020 23:07:31   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
n3eg wrote:
I like the top photo's colors better, which has everything to do with the sensor and nothing to do with the mirror / EVF.


I would hazard a guess it has not so much to do with the sensor and more to do with how the camera's white balance works. The Nikon photo is just a little warmer - an easy fix if cool is your preference.

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Jul 16, 2020 23:10:13   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
User ID wrote:
Flip a coin and get to work. You already established that results are equal. You further establish that for you there’s no difference in ease of use etc etc by your posing of the question (or nonquestion, flip another coin).


That sounds pretty scientific :-)

Can I suggest for your 15th birthday you buy yourself a dictionary? And maybe a course in English comprehension?

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Jul 17, 2020 00:46:11   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Actually, the answer to your question is, take whichever camera you are most comfortable with and photograph the wedding. If you dare, but since, in your scenario you’ve exhausted all your finances, you’d have no choice but to do it yourself. (Yeah, bad grammar, but what the heck, I’m over 70, so who cares!” In the end, assuming you don’t actually tell anyone which camera you took, it doesn’t matter. You use the one you’re most comfortable with, and, without EXIF data, no one could be able to tell the difference, anyway. You’d be neither a hypocrit nor a traitor to either side.

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Jul 17, 2020 03:29:28   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Actually, the answer to your question is, take whichever camera you are most comfortable with and photograph the wedding. If you dare, but since, in your scenario you’ve exhausted all your finances, you’d have no choice but to do it yourself. (Yeah, bad grammar, but what the heck, I’m over 70, so who cares!” In the end, assuming you don’t actually tell anyone which camera you took, it doesn’t matter. You use the one you’re most comfortable with, and, without EXIF data, no one could be able to tell the difference, anyway. You’d be neither a hypocrit nor a traitor to either side.
Actually, the answer to your question is, take whi... (show quote)


I like both your analysis of the situation and your proposed solution! (and I don't see anything grammatically incorrect in the way you've expressed it, unlike some other morons (who shall remain nameless) who lurk on this forum, and seem to have a very poor understanding of the English language)

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Jul 17, 2020 03:39:15   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
larryepage wrote:
Your experiment is interesting, even if just limited to the two cameras that you used. It underscores why the argument is so pointless in the first place...

I don't understand why folks here can't get it that "mirrorless" is not "new photography." It's just a different set of features to support preparation for the release of the shutter. There is nothing inherently superior about it...it's just a different set of features. Nothing more. Interesting to some, threatening to others, extremely profitable to the manufacturers, apparently.
Your experiment is interesting, even if just limit... (show quote)


Agree with you 100%

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Jul 17, 2020 03:53:36   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You are comparing the Nikon D850 and the Fuji X-T3 and not DSLR vs Mirrorless. Fast focus and high resolution characteristic of the D850 isn't only for DSLR. The nice color on the XT-3 isn't only for mirrorless.


Yes exactly. As someone else said you can't compare the two (DSLR and mirrorless) because they are just two different ways to achieve the same result.

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Jul 17, 2020 03:58:15   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
Strodav wrote:
Let me get this straight. You are trying to see how a $3000 46mp camera body compares to a $1500 24mp camera body looking at one image on a computer screen without specifying raw or jpg or what post processing was done?


Yes that's exactly what I'm doing. My purpose was to show that it has nothing to do with DSLR vs. mirrorless, there are too many other factors involved. So if you see anyone arguing that mirrorless cameras are superior then you know they're talking crap.

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Jul 17, 2020 04:01:06   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
repleo wrote:
Why is the 'advantage of being able to see the image before you take the photo' questionable? How often do you display two pictures of the same thing side by side?


Is this one question or two separate questions?

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Jul 17, 2020 04:09:12   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
If “the winner is clearly the Nikon” why would you continue to vacillate?


Because I like the colours of the Fujifilm JPEGS

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Jul 17, 2020 04:12:57   #
hobbit123 Loc: Brisbane, Australia
 
DavidPine wrote:
I have both and will continue to have both. I use them interchangeably.


Thank you, I do too. It was a theoretical question and fortunately I don't have to make that choice.

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