USS Bonhomme Richard
Jul 13, 2020 13:15:05 #
Jul 13, 2020 13:27:17 #
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Jul 13, 2020 14:01:02 #
Longshadow wrote:
Did they release a cause yet?
From word I'm hearing around the Goat Locker, no cause has been released but it was a small fire that spread quickly, topped with explosions that prevented early response. Of course none of this is from official sources, so mileage may vary.
Jul 13, 2020 14:56:58 #
Basically .., a fire on board any floating vessel is extreme .. as an ex fire fighter ...it’s the worst .. in this case ,,. narrow stair aces and passageways ,,. The explosion happened as a result of a “ back draft” gases from the initial fire exploded .. and spread the fire which was mostly supplies and cardboard boxes ,,.tons upon tons of supplies ..
There are NO ordinances aboard , that being said there is 1 million gal of fuel 2 decks below the fire .., that is the first concern .., the second is the amount of water being dumped on the vessel .., to much water weight topside and unbalance issues can be as bad as the fire ...which now has raged for over 24hrs ...
This 1.5 billion dollar vessel had a retrofit 2 years ago ..., And was in great shape ...had this happened on open sea .., we would be talking a different story ...
Today’s billion dollar war ships should come with a departmental fire suppression system , where compartments can be sealed off and a halon or other including sprinkler heads can rob the fire of oxygen and dry materials that are required for the fire to burn .. these automated systems and Manuel bridge controlled fire suppression should be standard today on all our warships ..
A simple little fire in a supply room on a 1.5 billion dollar war ship has crippled her and could even sink her .. if saved .., the 100’s of millions of dollars and The downtime should send a strong message to the Navy , Washington, and the tax payers ..., that a better onboard fire suppression system must be built into every new ship being built and retrofitted in those that are already in service ...Every ship has a well trained group of sailors who trained in fire suppression on their specific vessel they serve on ..., but in this case ...,?
Hell .., for all we know .., it was caused by a simple discarded cigarette ..., no cause of the fire has been pointed out thus far .., right now they are too busy trying to save her ,,,.
All military vessels at sea and in port fear onboard fire as its worst enemy ..especially subs and carriers ..!
There are NO ordinances aboard , that being said there is 1 million gal of fuel 2 decks below the fire .., that is the first concern .., the second is the amount of water being dumped on the vessel .., to much water weight topside and unbalance issues can be as bad as the fire ...which now has raged for over 24hrs ...
This 1.5 billion dollar vessel had a retrofit 2 years ago ..., And was in great shape ...had this happened on open sea .., we would be talking a different story ...
Today’s billion dollar war ships should come with a departmental fire suppression system , where compartments can be sealed off and a halon or other including sprinkler heads can rob the fire of oxygen and dry materials that are required for the fire to burn .. these automated systems and Manuel bridge controlled fire suppression should be standard today on all our warships ..
A simple little fire in a supply room on a 1.5 billion dollar war ship has crippled her and could even sink her .. if saved .., the 100’s of millions of dollars and The downtime should send a strong message to the Navy , Washington, and the tax payers ..., that a better onboard fire suppression system must be built into every new ship being built and retrofitted in those that are already in service ...Every ship has a well trained group of sailors who trained in fire suppression on their specific vessel they serve on ..., but in this case ...,?
Hell .., for all we know .., it was caused by a simple discarded cigarette ..., no cause of the fire has been pointed out thus far .., right now they are too busy trying to save her ,,,.
All military vessels at sea and in port fear onboard fire as its worst enemy ..especially subs and carriers ..!
Jul 13, 2020 15:12:00 #
Dr.Nikon wrote:
Basically .., a fire on board any floating vessel ... (show quote)
Great comment. I learned a great deal.
Jul 13, 2020 15:48:11 #
Dr.Nikon wrote:
Basically .., a fire on board any floating vessel ... (show quote)
The ESG commander mentioned it was a large stowage area. That could encompass half the ship depending on which compartment it was. So I would err on the side of it not being a simple supply room fire, and the ship most likely set at Xray or even more relaxed, it would spread pretty quick.
But yes, agree 100% when ships are underway they have a full crew, and set material condition: Yoke, Zebra, or modified Zebra so the integrity of the ship is more buttoned up.
Jul 13, 2020 18:16:12 #
Jul 13, 2020 22:41:36 #
Yeah, fire aboard a ship is a sailors worst fear, especially at sea. The firefighting teams aboard ship are well trained but not always fully manned in port. I agree with Dr. Nikon, auto fire suppression should be aboard every Navy ship.
Jul 14, 2020 00:37:48 #
An update .., this ship had a good automated/Manuel fire suppression system .., UNFORTUNATELY it was DEACTIVATED ...while the ship was being retrofitted and ...I learned this today ....
Jul 14, 2020 05:30:45 #
Jul 14, 2020 06:14:37 #
bobforman
Loc: Anacortes, Washington State
I'm wonder if that is seawater the firefighters are pumping or is it ground supplied. Can't imagine the damage salt water will do to the ship when considering the volume it's receiving.
Jul 14, 2020 06:18:44 #
bobforman
Loc: Anacortes, Washington State
BTW, it is interesting to hear the new presenters say the ship's name. Tonight heard: Bon' home Riche' hard. We were taught Bon' hommy Richard.
Jul 14, 2020 07:39:26 #
bobforman wrote:
I'm wonder if that is seawater the firefighters are pumping or is it ground supplied. Can't imagine the damage salt water will do to the ship when considering the volume it's receiving.
Well, the fire boats are pumping sea water........
But there probably are hydrant connections on the pier.
Jul 14, 2020 09:59:05 #
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