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Jul 12, 2020 13:59:39   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I don’t believe I ever said that your country is so bad.
I did compare communism with capitalism and said I think that capitalism is the lesser of two evils and will last longer.
And your society is not far far superior to anyone elses on earth. What arrogance ! Your country has a huge number of problems, just not as many or maybe as serious (yet) to a communist country.
And I have been watching what is happening in Hong Kong probably far more than you based on what you have said.
You make it sound like the Hong Kong residents wanted what is happening now and chose these options. They had NO CHOICE.
Hong Kong went back to China under an agreement made I believe in 1898 when a treaty was signed giving HK back to China. And China agreed to let HK rule itself except for foreign relations and defense for a further period of 50 years finishing in 2047. The residents had NO CHOICE and did not want it.
The CCP has grabbed HK back after 22 years totally breaking the agreement. So you cannot believe anything the Chinese say or enter into any agreement with them because they will break it at their will.
This is the government some of your pension funds have agreements with – best of luck with that.
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Give me the names of all these wonderful other countries and show me the evidence of the long lines of Americans seeking asylum there. Compare that to the hoards walking hundreds of miles in order to come to America. What is the spin you can put on that fact? I do believe this is the greatest country on earth bar none and I am not afraid to say it.

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Jul 12, 2020 14:40:29   #
Migradudetoo Loc: El Paso, Texas
 
thom w wrote:
Name even one instance of a first world nation trying communism. I’m not promoting it, but I get tired of dishonest cretins, such as yourself, comparing third world countries that are communist, with the US. Russia was a third world country before communism and it remains one today. Having a first world military doesn’t change that. Before saying communism has been proven not to work, one should have one or more examples.


Go ahead, princess, and tell us how you really feel. You’re a two bit hospital janitor who makes minimum wage. You crave communism and hope it comes to America. If it does, you get both a pay raise and status among your friends. LOL

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Jul 12, 2020 14:40:45   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Wow, there's plenty of competition for the Pigeon Chess Championship playoffs!

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Jul 12, 2020 14:44:54   #
Migradudetoo Loc: El Paso, Texas
 
DaveO wrote:
Wow, there's plenty of competition for the Pigeon Chess Championship playoffs!


We all aspire to beat you for the championship! You’ve held that title for 20+ years now.

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Jul 12, 2020 14:56:16   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:
Name even one instance of a first world nation trying communism. I’m not promoting it, but I get tired of dishonest cretins, such as yourself, comparing third world countries that are communist, with the US. Russia was a third world country before communism and it remains one today. Having a first world military doesn’t change that. Before saying communism has been proven not to work, one should have one or more examples.


You shouldn’t pontificate on phrases you don’t understand.

Of course no ‘first world’ country has been communist because by definition. The first world nations are non communist.

The second world was/is the communist block.

Third world was/is non aligned nations.

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Jul 12, 2020 16:52:22   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
tropics68 wrote:
Give me the names of all these wonderful other countries and show me the evidence of the long lines of Americans seeking asylum there. Compare that to the hoards walking hundreds of miles in order to come to America. What is the spin you can put on that fact? I do believe this is the greatest country on earth bar none and I am not afraid to say it.

I do believe there was a report here recently indicating a very large increase in Americans wanting to come to NZ. And a lot of your millionaires/billionaires have bolt holes here.
The US does have cheap goods, a pretty bad race problem, a pretty bad healthcare system, not a very good reputation overseas for finishing conflicts properly once started, just as many poor people as other countries, an over emphasied feeling of their own superiority, a political system that beggars belief, an ability to bury their heads in the sand when facing real problems. In other words just as many problems (not all the same ones mind but still just as many) as most other countries with my last point above being the worst of them.
By the way hoards is spelt wrong, it should be hordes - maybe this is an indication of your education system as well ? One thing you are good at is hoarding the worlds wealth. Unfortunately China is now trying to get some of it - don't bury your heads in the sand over that.

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Jul 12, 2020 17:06:26   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I do believe there was a report here recently indicating a very large increase in Americans wanting to come to NZ. And a lot of your millionaires/billionaires have bolt holes here.
The US does have cheap goods, a pretty bad race problem, a pretty bad healthcare system, not a very good reputation overseas for finishing conflicts properly once started, just as many poor people as other countries, an over emphasied feeling of their own superiority, a political system that beggars belief, an ability to bury their heads in the sand when facing real problems. In other words just as many problems (not all the same ones mind but still just as many) as most other countries with my last point above being the worst of them.
By the way hoards is spelt wrong, it should be hordes - maybe this is an indication of your education system as well ? One thing you are good at is hoarding the worlds wealth. Unfortunately China is now trying to get some of it - don't bury your heads in the sand over that.
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Jul 12, 2020 17:15:52   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I do believe there was a report here recently indicating a very large increase in Americans wanting to come to NZ. And a lot of your millionaires/billionaires have bolt holes here.
The US does have cheap goods, a pretty bad race problem, a pretty bad healthcare system, not a very good reputation overseas for finishing conflicts properly once started, just as many poor people as other countries, an over emphasied feeling of their own superiority, a political system that beggars belief, an ability to bury their heads in the sand when facing real problems. In other words just as many problems (not all the same ones mind but still just as many) as most other countries with my last point above being the worst of them.
By the way hoards is spelt wrong, it should be hordes - maybe this is an indication of your education system as well ? One thing you are good at is hoarding the worlds wealth. Unfortunately China is now trying to get some of it - don't bury your heads in the sand over that.
I do believe there was a report here recently indi... (show quote)


Another advantage you enjoy is not having any trumpettes !

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Jul 13, 2020 01:28:13   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I do believe there was a report here recently indicating a very large increase in Americans wanting to come to NZ. And a lot of your millionaires/billionaires have bolt holes here.
The US does have cheap goods, a pretty bad race problem, a pretty bad healthcare system, not a very good reputation overseas for finishing conflicts properly once started, just as many poor people as other countries, an over emphasied feeling of their own superiority, a political system that beggars belief, an ability to bury their heads in the sand when facing real problems. In other words just as many problems (not all the same ones mind but still just as many) as most other countries with my last point above being the worst of them.
By the way hoards is spelt wrong, it should be hordes - maybe this is an indication of your education system as well ? One thing you are good at is hoarding the worlds wealth. Unfortunately China is now trying to get some of it - don't bury your heads in the sand over that.
I do believe there was a report here recently indi... (show quote)


If anyone in this country wants to move to NZ, or anywhere else for that matter, they should go. No one is going to miss them or stop them.

Actions speak much louder than words. How many leftie celebrities have said that if so and so wins the election I am moving to Canada or France or some other location outside of the USA? How many have actually done so? Wanting to do something and actually doing it are not the same. The "hordes" of human beings from numerous foreign countries that are actually doing something, often illegally, to achieve what they want, which is to live in the USA, far surpasses those in this country who are actually leaving for foreign shores for whatever reason they have. The USA is far from perfect but it beats all of the alternatives and the whole world knows it, except those whose hate prevents them from admitting it. If it were not for the USA we might all be speaking German today.

As to our educational system, our universities are packed with non citizens here to get an education. Look what the numbers are comparing those from other lands coming here to get an education to US citizens who are going to another country for theirs. The last time I checked it was about 3 foreigners coming to the US to every 1 getting their educations outside the US. These are facts and wishing them false is fruitless.

Actually the word is spelled correctly just applied incorrectly but then lefties always turn to personal attacks when facts get in their way.

When are you leaving for NZ? Hope you have a wonderful trip. I hear everyone is moving there these days. Maybe you can show them what is wrong with their country when you get there.

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Jul 13, 2020 01:44:07   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
tropics68 wrote:
When are you leaving for NZ? Hope you have a wonderful trip. I hear everyone is moving there these days. Maybe you can show them what is wrong with their country when you get there.

And another big problem with SOME US citizens is how little attention they pay to what is all around them.
I didn't say hoards was misspelt I said hordes was misspelt - just had to slip that in.
Now spend a little time looking about you instead of spouting off a gut reaction. Have a look at my title line. You will see that I am already in New Zealand although I could have faked that I suppose.
We have free speech here too. Because we don't have as many stubborn people (as a percentage) claiming that anything and everything is an infringement on their constitutional rights we have much less covid infections and deaths. Any normal person with half a brain would be quite happy to suspend their 'constitutional' rights until covid is licked. But not a lot of US citizens. Where do you fit in this ?
Oh and thanks for your help during WW2 since I didn't want to speak German. Same applies to me speaking Japanese. Although I feel I should point out that if you had entered it earlier it wouldn't have lasted as long.
And in case it helps you with motivation I also don't want to have to learn Chinese (or have an organ harvested if I refuse).

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Jul 13, 2020 02:06:06   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
chrissybabe wrote:
And another big problem with SOME US citizens is how little attention they pay to what is all around them.
I didn't say hoards was misspelt I said hordes was misspelt - just had to slip that in.
Now spend a little time looking about you instead of spouting off a gut reaction. Have a look at my title line. You will see that I am already in New Zealand although I could have faked that I suppose.
We have free speech here too. Because we don't have as many stubborn people (as a percentage) claiming that anything and everything is an infringement on their constitutional rights we have much less covid infections and deaths. Any normal person with half a brain would be quite happy to suspend their 'constitutional' rights until covid is licked. But not a lot of US citizens. Where do you fit in this ?
Oh and thanks for your help during WW2 since I didn't want to speak German. Same applies to me speaking Japanese. Although I feel I should point out that if you had entered it earlier it wouldn't have lasted as long.
And in case it helps you with motivation I also don't want to have to learn Chinese (or have an organ harvested if I refuse).
And another big problem with SOME US citizens is h... (show quote)


It needs to be said again ... Jacinda Ardern has proved to be a calibre national leader in a crisis.

No one will ever say that about Donald J Trump.

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Jul 13, 2020 10:10:47   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
I see, she's like tallest of the seven dwarfs.

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Jul 13, 2020 10:27:16   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
It's not that they can't it;s just not profitable. The customers (regardless who the customer is)nis just not willing to pay the higher orices of american made goods, It;s just that simple

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Jul 13, 2020 11:18:15   #
waymond Loc: Pflugerville, Texas
 
Agreed. Stay well.

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Jul 13, 2020 17:01:38   #
eskiles Loc: Palmer Alaska
 
The U.S. has all the resources to produce PPE’s, masks, coveralls, and the like. All it takes is a manufacturer who sees a profit in producing them! And the will to do it! As for the medical shortage of PPE’s, it is the same reason for toilet paper shortages, hoarding of supply, and overpricing of remaining stocks! Hospitals prefer disposable Masks and gowns, using more durable and reusable breathing apparatus’s is not only cost prohibitive but allows transfer of bacteria and viruses from room to room! Because they rely on disposables the hospitals are at the mercy of hoarders. The supply chain for hospitals are especially difficult in a panic situation. Profit rules the roost, and hospitals don’t want to sit on thousands of dollars of inventory that may or may not be needed. The CDC, and FEMA are restricted to similar restraints! In a situation like the Covid cases, production is throttled down because of a lack of people willing or able to work. So, in normal times, when there is no need for emergency stocks, production is more than adequate, during a pandemic it is restricted by the inability to field healthy, and willing labor, and by profitability of producing a product at an affordable price!

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