My Oath (Page 8): R.G. Do you have investments? If so, you are part of the 'deep state' and so is everyone here but no one wants to admit it, same as so one wants to admit that ALL...

Rongnongno Loc: FL

R.G. wrote:

The deep state is real, the people we refer to as globalists are real and their agenda is real. One of the biggest obstacles in the way of the globalists achieving their objectives is the sovereignty and nationhood of the United States, and it is part of the globalists' agenda to destroy that sovereignty. Barack Obama and other presidents before him have been covertly involved in pursuing that agenda and setting America up for its eventual downfall. Obviously they couldn't be too obvious or open about it, but that agenda was, and still is, very real.

The globalists intend to present their agendas and ideas as being virtuous but the truth is there's nothing well intended about any of it. When they refer to a one world government, what they really have in mind is a one world dictatorship with them in charge. Globalism would actually be a good idea in the right hands, but the people we refer to as globalists aren't the sort of people you'd want running things.

You may think that you already know what an oppressive dictatorship is like, but what they have in mind is a level of control that the world has never seen before - a one world government so that they control the politics, a one world economy which will give them control over our finances and commerce, they seek control over the media and entertainment industry so that they can influence how people think by controlling what we see and hear on TV, on the radio, in the newspapers, in films etc. And as I said before, there's nothing well intended about any of it.

Donald Trump has been trying to reverse those agendas and trying to reverse the damage already caused, but its roots run deep and the associated corruption runs deep. Despite the coronavirus, America's economy is on the road to recovery. There's a time coming, probably still well in the future, when Donald Trump's efforts will be acknowledged and he will be acknowledged for what he's achieved and what he's reversed.

For some time now, America has been suffering from corruption in high places. You should be very glad that you now have somebody who has taken on the unenviable task of reversing and eradicating that corruption.

The deep state is real, the people we refer to as ... (show quote)

R.G. Do you have investments? If so, you are part of the 'deep state' and so is everyone here but no one wants to admit it, same as so one wants to admit that ALL political and economical 'schemes' have failed. Capitalism led to globalism and led to your decried 'deep state'. The lifting of regulation by reagan is responsible for the direct decline of middle class in the US, the rise of a few and the growing mass of the underpaid working class as well as the growing number of folks depending on state support. Reagan deregulation is the direct cause of globalism.

Your 'corruption' is the result of that. If you see the current ****** as a savior, I see him as a catalyst for negative change, refusal of sciences, breaking alliances, refusing to take charge and who knows what else. This is not for nothing that groups of veterans are now calling him a 'traitor'. The 'enemy' within include the leaders/politicians but heck addressing that part makes your own awkward unless you realize that you have a responsibility to say 'No!' because of it.

You are playing (destroying) you children future by not seeing reality and supporting the wrong person w/o question.

As one already said: NO ONE is above the law.

History is not going to be kind with this generation.

marine73 Loc: Modesto California

dennis2146 wrote:

You are a joke playing the fool. What a ridiculous post you wrote. My parents and grandparents would be incredibly proud of what I have become, college educated, combat Marine, law enforcement officer and corrections officer, all with good evaluations and commendations. They would be proud that I continue to stand up for the ethics and ideals they instilled in me and my brothers.

How are we veterans acting that disgusts you so much? What is it specifically that you disapprove of? Why is it you, a Liberal, singles out veterans to vent your wrath and complete ignorance? How is it in your small minded nothingness you think any of us is turning our backs on anything past veterans have done. I Guarantee every one of us is proud to be a part of that same group of warriors who offered up their lives to keep you and yours free. What have you done for America? Where did you serve?

Is it because we support a President who while speakzing in a braggadocio tone, boasts that he is doing a great job and actually IS doing a great job? Is it because you Liberals aren‘t pissed that he is corrupt but pissed because he is not corrupt. Is it because it is he who believes in the rule of law while the Left mocks the law and justice?

Not one of has uttered a word about immigrants coming to America legally.

What are you talking about with turning our back on our oath. Nobody has done that except Left Wing politicians. Be a little more specific next time. You are blathering on like a fool with no good information. We call that lying. You aren’t even good at it.

One thing you said does make sense. I am proud of my choices and will with those very same choices in the future. How about you? Knowing Joe Biden is a corrupt liar, plagiarist, child molester and fool who welcomes Marxism to America will you continue to vote for him? Will you play the useful idiot?

You owe apologies to a number of veterans who have been there for America when needed. What have you done for this country?

Dennis

You are a joke playing the fool. What a ridiculou... (show quote)

Well said, I could not have said it better

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Rongnongno wrote:

R.G. Do you have investments? If so, you are par... (show quote)

I see you are trying hard to take the title of Class Clown here in The Attic. Doing good so far. You have my vote Rong.

You tell us, "ALL political and economical 'schemes' have failed. Capitalism led to globalism and led to your decried 'deep state'."

I look around and see Capitalism is doing just fine as intended by our Founding Fathers; probably not founded by them but more, the way America was run from the beginning. People work, they earn money and they spend that money buying goods and services from someone else. That economic example has worked for centuries. The only problem I see is that some people don't want to work. But they still want to have money to buy goods and services. So they either go on the welfare rolls or turn to crime. In either case it is the taxpayer who foots the bill for them.

This has nothing to do with Capitalism failing. For those in America or even the world market who study and work hard to get ahead the system is still working perfectly. Even brand new people to America have found the system works well as many have become millionaires through great new ideas or through hard work. Everybody in America has an equal chance at success provided they do their part. Show me where that is a failure.

Show me how the One World economy is going to be any better. It is the Deep State that is trying to take over, to put down the effectiveness of Capitalism so that those in the Deep State can claim their method is better, that we all must submit to their ways of doing everything for us. Read that as controlling us completely while those in charge will be at the top of the ladder and the rest of us will be submissive to them.

BTW where do you come up with corruption as you do? I see no corruption except for those politicians on the Left and those like you who follow them with a ring in your nose. You must have missed that part of the Constitution that says citizens, that is us, do not need government, any government to lead us around with a ring in our nose. We the People are in charge. The government wants to take that power away from us in order to form your New World Order. I do believe they will have a fight on their hands.

Dennis

marine73 Loc: Modesto California

Morry wrote:

An equally valid question to "How many of you had friends and relatives who died during WW2" would be "how many of you had relatives and friends who were in Nazi concentration camps and were among the 6 million Jews and many other denominations that were exterminated in their (Nazi) ovens and also by other means"?
Do not forget that Hitler was democratically elected and that "most" of what he did was after his first term in office.

My wifes mother had relatives that were in the Nazi concentration camps that did not survive. She has a relative living in Southern Ca who is a photographer ( can't remember his name) that wears a number from the concentration camp. To her the holocaust is very personal.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

marine73 wrote:

Well said, I could not have said it better

Thank you my brother.

S/F

Dennis

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

R.G. wrote:

The deep state is real, the people we refer to as globalists are real and their agenda is real. One of the biggest obstacles in the way of the globalists achieving their objectives is the sovereignty and nationhood of the United States, and it is part of the globalists' agenda to destroy that sovereignty. Barack Obama and other presidents before him have been covertly involved in pursuing that agenda and setting America up for its eventual downfall. Obviously they couldn't be too obvious or open about it, but that agenda was, and still is, very real.

The globalists intend to present their agendas and ideas as being virtuous but the truth is there's nothing well intended about any of it. When they refer to a one world government, what they really have in mind is a one world dictatorship with them in charge. Globalism would actually be a good idea in the right hands, but the people we refer to as globalists aren't the sort of people you'd want running things.

You may think that you already know what an oppressive dictatorship is like, but what they have in mind is a level of control that the world has never seen before - a one world government so that they control the politics, a one world economy which will give them control over our finances and commerce, they seek control over the media and entertainment industry so that they can influence how people think by controlling what we see and hear on TV, on the radio, in the newspapers, in films etc. And as I said before, there's nothing well intended about any of it.

Donald Trump has been trying to reverse those agendas and trying to reverse the damage already caused, but its roots run deep and the associated corruption runs deep. Despite the coronavirus, America's economy is on the road to recovery. There's a time coming, probably still well in the future, when Donald Trump's efforts will be acknowledged and he will be acknowledged for what he's achieved and what he's reversed.

For some time now, America has been suffering from corruption in high places. You should be very glad that you now have somebody who has taken on the unenviable task of reversing and eradicating that corruption.

The deep state is real, the people we refer to as ... (show quote)

Thank you. I was merely asking a question. Your response seems to indicate that I had stated a position. I hadn't other than saying that I agreed that leaders should have good motives and agendas. Who could disagree with that. I think that would be a good thing for everyone to aspire to. I guess the question in this thread is what part of the political spectrum has the best motives and agendas for our future.

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

Rongnongno wrote:

R.G. Do you have investments? If so, you are par... (show quote)

"As one already said: NO ONE is above the law." Except Bill Clinton when he ran to Canada so he didn't have to serve during Vietnam era, and after he had sexual relations with a young ignorant girl in the Oval Office, and Barrack Obama after he traveled the world apologizing for America to all of his Muslim friends and after he said in public and through the media that the police acted stupidly which made them targets for so many lefties and their guns, and Eric Holder and all the others were part of Obama's so called administration who broke many laws. And then there is the "Queen" of the group, crooked Hillary Clinton! Everyone knew she was going to be President until they heard that the "true" Americans who still love America and believe in her said NO to Hillary. That is the main reason that the radical left in America has refused to work with Our President Trump ever since he was elected.

BamaTexan Loc: Deep in the heart of Texas

AirWalter wrote:

"As one already said: NO ONE is above the law... (show quote)

Rongnongno Loc: FL

AirWalter wrote:

"As one already said: NO ONE is above the law... (show quote)

B junior... air guard to avoid vietnam
Clinton dodged the draft
Obama too young
***** bone burrs...
So yeah you can type what you want especially when your guy insults veterans for being POWs, insults gold star families, insults another who gave up her legs, insults.... The list is long my non-friends. Final straw for many? The ignored report on russia paying for US deaths. For all these reasons real veterans who take their oaths and sacrifices seriously have branded him a traitor and an oath breaker. As such your ***** is an enemy of the state. Check your oath.

As to WWII, my uncle was deported in 1943 and died two days after his camp was liberated by the soviet forces in Poland*. My father was an escapee POW (40~42) and resistant (42~45). He led US troops along the Loire valley and had nothing but awe over their organization limitless supplies. My grand mother (mother side) was a commander of a resistance organization. So you folks have nothing to teach about losing folks in that war. You were not there and neither was I. I will not take away from their courage and actions by claiming them for myself. For all I know I could have run.

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* We learned of his fate a couple of years ago, he was listed as 'missing'. His death was known but recorded in the wrong commune. That is how we learned, someone spotted the error.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Rongnongno wrote:

B junior... air guard to avoid vietnam br Clinton... (show quote)

The fact that John McCain was a POW does not make him untouchable when it comes to his political dealings. There is much negative information out there about John McCain that is never mentioned by the Left and when the Right brings it up the information is poo pooed to death. Allegedly it was McCain's antics that started a fire aboard an aircraft leading to the death of sailors. Allegedly it was McCain who gave information to his POW captors. He was not a God and the fact he was captured does not make him a hero.

Bringing up your family does not take away the thousands of American and allied men who died keeping other countries safe. Good for your parents for doing what they did during the war. You should be proud of them as we are proud of our military. But it is you who has put down American veterans now because we don't agree with you about anti American Marxist Liberals. You put me down as well as other veterans with your idiotic cockamamie thinking. Sorry Rong but I know no other way to clean it up. Nobody but a Liberal like you would ever go along with that thinking. How dare you put down anyone who ever served in the American military? As you tell us, you would have probably run. We did not run except toward the fighting.

Dennis

Popeye Loc: LifIno

Took this oath 55 years ago. Thanks for reminding me how old I am. I wouldn't trade my time in the military for all the tea in China.

whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.

Rongnongno wrote:

B junior... air guard to avoid vietnam br Clinton... (show quote)

Thanks for some of your ancestors stands.
Now, having said that, get your facts straight if you are going to put up an argument.
Obama was too young for Vietnam, but we have had other wars since. Did he volunteer for any of them?
As far as Capitalism goes; why are so many people from other countries wanting to come to the USA? I don’t hear about any significant numbers of US citizens wanting to go to other counties for a better life. Why? Because, I think, our system offers them freedoms a lot of other countries don’t. Freedom of speech, choices in life, oppurtunities, etc. if you dislike the USA so much why do you stay here? Probably because of the above.
***** is no more perfect than others, but he has achieved more and accomplished more good than most presidents we have had including those since Reagan (more in one term than most in two terms).
Sadly there are those who refuse to see both sides of an equation.
So much for my 2 cents worth.

Derryg

Me also, 55 years ago, 30 months Nam. now 100% V A disability pension. Times fun when you're having flies.
Derry

Bill_de Loc: US

UHH amazes me. Somebody mentioned Hillary and already I'm seeing an ad pertaining to Hillary.

Actually it's Google that's getting these ads up, but I never see the instant response to a single word as I do here.

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exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire

Trump is doing a GREAT job of ruining this country. He has NO regard for the Constitution.