My Oath
Jul 8, 2020 12:13:02 #
traderjohn wrote:
What are those social programs that are being torn down??
Defend the Constitution means "honor, respect and OBEY" it. Any amendments have a proscribed procedure.
Strange that anyone would ask what "defends it" means.
We are also called upon to defend the USA against all enemies both foreign and domestic (those among us who would undermine and destroy our Constitution and culture).
"Great Society" welfare spending program ,
which has devastated the black community is one of those left wing programs that has totally failed.
Jul 8, 2020 12:17:28 #
R.G. wrote:
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Does that mean you support those whose agenda was to take America down from the inside?
Does that mean you support those whose agenda was to take America down from the inside?
Sue the full quote:
Rongnongno wrote:
"Defend the constitution" What does this mean today?
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
My statement is clear. The top commanders in the DOD reflected their way of thinking when the so called president wanted to use the military as 'control forces to reinforce the police'.
Funny how short our memory is.
Military Times
Federal News Network
Army times
General Mark A. Milley letter
Supporting the constitution does not mean accepting illegal orders from a so called president out of control. Accepting illegal orders will land you in hot water according to military law.
"Our military leaders must be accountable to the oath they swore to protect the Constitution. They must fight for the rights of the American people by speaking truth to power allowing freedom to prevail." Scott W. Patton
Jul 8, 2020 12:19:08 #
Amielee
Loc: Eastern Washington State
Took the oath 68 years ago. 1952 U.S. Army (Infantry) retired 1980. Politicians good and bad come and go.
Jul 8, 2020 12:31:17 #
I am the youngster here 47 years ago USMC.
I have actually taken that oath multiple times, let me see if I can give you the time line: January 1973 upon entering the 180 day delay entry program, June 1973 upon entering Boot Camp, Upon reenlisting in December 1979 into the USMC, upon entering 3 different Air National Guard units (Oklahoma, PA., and CA). I can not remember If I took the oath upon changing my status from inactive USMCR to an active USMCR. At a minimum I took the oath six different times.
I have actually taken that oath multiple times, let me see if I can give you the time line: January 1973 upon entering the 180 day delay entry program, June 1973 upon entering Boot Camp, Upon reenlisting in December 1979 into the USMC, upon entering 3 different Air National Guard units (Oklahoma, PA., and CA). I can not remember If I took the oath upon changing my status from inactive USMCR to an active USMCR. At a minimum I took the oath six different times.
Jul 8, 2020 12:41:50 #
Bill_de wrote:
So click on report issue and select, "wrong section". If admin agrees it will be moved.
You know what they say, "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem."
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Jul 8, 2020 12:45:14 #
Rongnongno wrote:
"Defend the constitution" What does this mean today?
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
If you’re referring to all the free stuff given to lazy people, and illegals, then yes!
Jul 8, 2020 12:49:30 #
Cookie223 wrote:
If you’re referring to all the free stuff given to lazy people, and illegals, then yes!
So let's use the military and kill them all. Is that your reasoning and your philosophy?
Jul 8, 2020 12:50:25 #
Jul 8, 2020 12:53:06 #
Rongnongno wrote:
So let's use the military and kill them all. Is that your reasoning and your philosophy?
If the goal is to destroy our country, then yes.
Jul 8, 2020 12:56:36 #
Morry
Loc: Palm Springs, CA
R.G. wrote:
For that to be a good oath, you need to have the right people in control - people that have the right motives and agendas. Even presidents can fall victim to misguided ideas (that comment isn't aimed at your present president, but there have been times in the past....).
Well said. I took the oath in 1952. That was 68 years ago and or president was Eisenhower. He was quite a different president that the current one in almost every way.
Jul 8, 2020 13:17:27 #
Rongnongno wrote:
My statement is clear. The top commanders in the ... (show quote)
Our present military leadership is heavy towards political creatures rather than war fighters/military. Many of them left leaning. But all timid and not wanting to do anything controversial so as to avoid possible problems (like being forced to retire etc) if the administration and congress changes.
And there is a law that allows the President to use the military in the country. It has been used many times. Usually by federalizing the National Guard but also using regular troops. In 1957 Arkansas was planning on using the Guard to resist integration of schools and President Eisenhower federalized them and had them enforce integration. Later he also deployed regular troops to various places for the same purpose.
Now, drop this before this thread that started as about the "Oath" and service before you and the others who brought in politics get it sent to the Attic.
In fact I have doubts about posting this but someone needs to do something similar.
Jul 8, 2020 13:29:36 #
Rongnongno wrote:
"Defend the constitution" What does this mean today?
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
Support a president that is tearing down every social progress made in the past fifty years?
If so, sorry, you are barking at the wrong tree.
To me, "Defend the Constitution" and the 27 amendments mean the same today as when they were written.
Supporting the President of the United States of America is my duty and responsibility, and the duty and responsibility of every citizen of the United States. We have way too many "social programs" today. Only the ones that are the benefit to any and all citizens still remain. If one is not a citizen no benefits should be allowed.
Work, pay your just taxes and live as a great citizen should. Don't accept handouts.
Jul 8, 2020 13:47:36 #
NG 1955, RA56. Saw both hot and cold, watched at Checkpoint Charlie and shot at Viet Charlie..would do it all over again but not in current physical shape...
Jul 8, 2020 14:51:30 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
GoofyNewfie wrote:
And this has to do with photography how?
(I took the oath too, but this doesn’t belong here in the main photography section)
(I took the oath too, but this doesn’t belong here in the main photography section)
This is in the Chit-Chat section ... exactly where it belongs.
I took the oath 54 years ago. It is perhaps understandable that there might be one, or even a few, who take the oath without any regard to its meaning. But a whole political party, most of whom have JD degrees? That is mind boggling.
Jul 8, 2020 15:30:21 #
sailwiz
Loc: Santee, CA
I took the oath in 1963, at 18. Got out in 1969. I'll be first in line if they want me again.
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