Our family attempted to have it looked into. I went to the State Capitol and had an appointment with the highest rated Attorney for medical malpractice. On our appointment we were never even taken into a conference room. One of the Attorney's assistant's took our notes about what had happened in the waiting area near the receptionist's desk, then said for us to wait here and he would be back in just a moment. He came back in about 10 or 15 minutes and said that they could not do anything for us, but to remember that your Dad had a good long life and to be thankful for that. I was dumbfounded and could not think of anything to say. The Doctor that I was talking to them about did remove cancer from Dad which gave Dad another 18 years of life. Later I thought maybe that is what that assistant was referring to when he said we should be thankful for that; I just don't know, but I do know that certainly didn't justify what happened to my Dad. Also, after many times of trying to figure out what happened, I figured that that Attorney and my Dads Doctor were probably very familiar with each other and protected each other in this matter. Like the good guys club. I could not find an Attorney to help, so I had my Dad buried at a local cemetery in a spot that was right in the landing pattern at our international Airport because Dad was a pilot and was crazy about aircraft. Since then I have tried to make it a habit to go to Dad's grave every year when the Blue Angels or the Thunderbird's do their 2 days of practice before the annual airshow and talk to Dad and take pictures of them flying over the cemetery and His grave. I suppose some would thing that was silly, but I always feel like Dad is right there with me on those days. If you think that story is hard to take you should hear how we were lied to by Hospice and how they murdered Her. I know Hospice helps a lot of people who are in their last days, but in our case it was not so. I will believe She was murdered until the day I die by one certain Doctor at the Hospice facility. I have done a lot of investigation on the internet about Hospice units killings a lot of patients unnecessarily, and some of the stories I have read from other's would make your blood boil. But, thanks for asking about Dad.

You are certainly welcome about asking about your dad. I am not a strong proponent about fatal screwups in the medical profession but I do think there are many more thousands who die each year than are necessary with nothing happening to the doctors or their associates who make these mistakes. Medicine is not an exact science and may never be but surely there are some deaths that are truly the result of a medical screw up, accidental or not.

I like the idea of your dad on a flight path. He sounds like a wonderful father who had a great and loving son.

Dennis

Sent to me by a friend:

Dennis


Yikes! My friend sent this from a co-worker. I don’t know how true it is but his wife is a nurse at Cedars. And my sister, who is a retired nurse practitioner, agrees with this.

From a source . . .

Not to scare you/ but allows u to see the other side of going out unmasked/without a shield:

Here you go folks... for those people who don't understand what it means to be on a ventilator but want to take the chance of going out without a mask...

For starters, it's NOT an oxygen mask put over the mouth while the patient is comfortably lying down and reading magazines. Ventilation for Covid-19 is a painful intubation that goes down your throat and stays there until you live or you die.

It is done under anesthesia for 2 to 3 weeks without moving, often upside down, with a tube inserted from the mouth up to the trachea and allows you to breathe to the rhythm of the lung machine. The patient can't talk or eat, or do anything naturally - the machine keeps you alive.

The discomfort and pain they feel from this means medical experts have to administer sedatives and painkillers to ensure tube tolerance for as long as the machine is needed. It's like being in an artificial coma.

After 20 days from this treatment, a young patient loses 40% muscle mass, and gets mouth or vocal cords trauma, as well as possible pulmonary or heart complications.

It is for this reason that old or already weak people can't withstand the treatment and die. Many of us are in this boat ... so stay safe unless you want to take the chance of ending up here. This is NOT the flu.

Add a tube into your stomach, either through your nose or skin for liquid food, a sticky bag around your butt to collect the diarrhea, a foley catheter to collect urine, an IV for fluids and meds, an A-line f to monitor your BP that is completely dependent upon finely calculated med doses, teams of nurses, CRNA’s and MA’s to reposition your limbs every two hours and lying on a mat that circulates ice cold fluid to help bring down your 104 degree temp.

-Anyone want to try all that out? Stay home and wear a mask when you go out! Stay safe and well!-

What this article doesn't say, is that the patient can hear everything that is said so if the staff carelessly talks about death, the patient panics. If the sedatives are lessened, the patient panics because he can't breath or talk or, in his case, move. When they begin to lower the pain medications, the patient screams in his head but can't make a sound. When they take out the tubes it's extremely uncomfortable. A trachea may replace the respirator, the patient still can't talk or eat without a tube.

Your child, your spouse, your parent, suffers from covid 19 alone in the hospital. The victims are not limited to strangers. When you choose to crowd, unmasked, into newly opened stores for some irrelevant purchase, ask yourself if it's worth a lifetime of knowing your child suffered, maybe died, alone.

A couple of errors in this post which I am personally familiar with since my son was intubated and sedated for about 10 days in early March as a result of systematic sepsis. He was unaware of anything being said while sedated and he was on his back throughout that time. During this time there were times when his sedation was decreased and he was asked to respond to questions. He didn't panic or "scream in his head." When they removed the tube it was not comfortable but not painful. Before my son was sedated the sepsis had him quite confused since it had infected his meninges as well. He pulled out every kind of tube they stuck in him and fought with all his might to get out of bed. He's a strong guy and it took eight doctors and nurses to hold him down that first night before they finally sedated him. After that he was peaceful while they treated him for a very serious illness. I understand that this post was copied, and to tell you the truth, it's full of mistruths.

A couple of errors in this post which I am personally familiar with since my son was intubated and sedated for about 10 days in early March as a result of systematic sepsis. He was unaware of anything being said while sedated and he was on his back throughout that time. During this time there were times when his sedation was decreased and he was asked to respond to questions. He didn't panic or "scream in his head." When they removed the tube it was not comfortable but not painful. Before my son was sedated the sepsis had him quite confused since it had infected his meninges as well. He pulled out every kind of tube they stuck in him and fought with all his might to get out of bed. He's a strong guy and it took eight doctors and nurses to hold him down that first night before they finally sedated him. After that he was peaceful while they treated him for a very serious illness. I understand that this post was copied, and to tell you the truth, it's full of mistruths.

As I pointed out when I posted I had no idea and still don't for the grand scheme of things. Certainly the intubation and taking a person off the ventilator, not to mention their specific experiences while on the ventilator would vary from person to person. I doubt it is possible to predict how each specific person will react nor how their body will react to the ventilator.

I wonder if the mistruths as you call them are not absolutely true for some others.

I am not trying to be difficult but only pointing out that there is a lot we did not know about ventilators and still some things that are being found out. Your son reacted one way while others may react in a completely different way.

Dennis

Bedridden patients who are unable to change their own position, whether on ventilators or not, often get an air mattress and are turned (from side-to-back-to-side) on a regular basis in order to prevent pressure ulcers of the skin ("bedsores") which could lead to infection.

Covid-19 patients, specifically, are often placed in the prone position (on their belly rather than on their back) because it is easier for patients to inflate their lungs in the prone position. It turns out that "proning" often lets Covid patients avoid the need for a ventilator. Even if patients require mechanical ventilation, placing them in prone position facilitates oxygenation, permits the ventilator to be "turned down" and then facilitates weaning off the ventilator as the patient improves.