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Jul 4, 2020 17:20:01   #
Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina
 
oregonfrank wrote:
I find it interesting to know how many UHH members have an interest in guns. I am likewise attracted to well functioning firearms and cameras, part of the GAS syndrome I guess. In addition, I suspect that a number of UHH members who also own guns are moderate to liberal philosophically, as I am. I have often said to friends who react negatively to the mere mention of guns, that a neighborhood where many have concealed carry permits will be safer than a neighborhood with none because we know those with permits have had their backgrounds carefully checked (at least here in Oregon). I prefer outdoor photography and often carry a handgun. My favorite is a 4”
1911 in .45.
I find it interesting to know how many UHH members... (show quote)


I think it's an eye opening look at just how many people woke, & I do mean awakened, all
at once to the facts. We need be prepared to fight for our lives, at any time anywhere.

As a free American man, I am responsible for my Families safety & well being. Isn't that
a Beach having to take care of your own defense, & having the Freedom to keep & bear arms.
Not at all.

I will gladly be responsible for my own defense, because I know we will be alone & scared
when you most need the Police. It pays to be armed & know how & when to use force in your
own defense your life depends on it.

Many others will just blindly dance to their puppet master tune, & just never get it. It's too late for
them, just help your family survive the coming days after our next election.

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Jul 4, 2020 18:56:19   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
lbrande wrote:
We have a GP-100 by Ruger. It's a beast. I prefer the wheel guns Colt manufactures. When it comes to CC, I prefer the H&K. Never had a problem in either 9mm or .45.


Yes, GP-100 is a sturdy weapon.... I love mine and shooting .38 ammo keeps the cost down.

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Jul 4, 2020 21:24:11   #
Najataagihe
 
Cookie223 wrote:
All excellent recommendations, using dummy rounds for dry firing will prevent damage to the pin.

The SP101 can be safely dry-fired without snap caps.

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Jul 4, 2020 21:41:22   #
Najataagihe
 


I have been reading the posts in this thread and want to caution EVERYONE that a LOT of the information freely given is anywhere from 10 to 50 years out of date.

What was gospel just a few years ago is inaccurate, now.


DO NOT USE FULL-METAL-JACKET AMMO FOR CIVILIAN SELF-DEFENSE!

The chance of ricochet or over-penetration is too great.


If your .45 won't feed modern hollow-point ammo, you most likely have the old two-piece ramp design and need a good gunsmith to smooth it out.


Instead of listing the lesser-dangerous points and correcting them here, I encourage you ALL to do some research and/or get some refresher training.



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Jul 4, 2020 21:48:01   #
Najataagihe
 
Amielee wrote:
What a timely post for me. I have always carried an automatic but now have a good deal of arthritis in my left hand and it hurts to rack a slide. I woke up this morning thinking it was time to switch to a revolver, but which one? I am thinking a 38 + P would do the job. Would like some advice from knowledgeable people.

If you prefer an automatic, see if you can find a Beretta Model 86.

It is a .380 with a tilt-up barrel for loading.

Modern .380 ammo can be quite effective.


With arthritis, you do not want a light-weight revolver.

The SP101 is a good choice - heavy enough to absorb recoil AND help steady tremors.

You might even want to consider the version with the 3" barrel.


Good luck!


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Jul 4, 2020 22:14:08   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
Najataagihe wrote:
If you prefer an automatic, see if you can find a Beretta Model 86.

It is a .380 with a tilt-up barrel for loading.

Modern .380 ammo can be quite effective.


With arthritis, you do not want a light-weight revolver.

The SP101 is a good choice - heavy enough to absorb recoil AND help steady tremors.

You might even want to consider the version with the 3" barrel.


Good luck!

If you prefer an automatic, see if you can find a ... (show quote)


Thank you for your input. I still have my old service Python but it has a 4 inch barrel and is quite large for concealed carry, I have a small frame and it is difficult to conceal a large weapon. My right hand is arthritis free but my right shoulder is not. Have been recommended for a right total shoulder but at my age not practical. This all presents problems but the Baretta sounds good.

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Jul 4, 2020 22:20:15   #
jayluber Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
I’m 67 and just had total shoulder replacement. Best thing I ever did. Playing tennis again after 4 months.

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Jul 4, 2020 22:53:52   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
jayluber wrote:
I’m 67 and just had total shoulder replacement. Best thing I ever did. Playing tennis again after 4 months.


Thanks for the reply: I'm 85 and have had several inputs. One lady I talked to said do it. I had mine done and it was the best thing I ever did. (same as you) I talked to two Physiotherapist and asked them if they had any patients who had had a total shoulder and their response was "Yes, They think they traded a little pain for a whole lot." Another lady who is a neighbor when we go to AZ for the winter had one and she said she would have to think long and hard before having another. She is still in PT for it though. So at my age I doubt I will have it done.

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Jul 5, 2020 06:17:53   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Najataagihe wrote:


I have been reading the posts in this thread and want to caution EVERYONE that a LOT of the information freely given is anywhere from 10 to 50 years out of date.

What was gospel just a few years ago is inaccurate, now.


DO NOT USE FULL-METAL-JACKET AMMO FOR CIVILIAN SELF-DEFENSE!

The chance of ricochet or over-penetration is too great.


If your .45 won't feed modern hollow-point ammo, you most likely have the old two-piece ramp design and need a good gunsmith to smooth it out.


Instead of listing the lesser-dangerous points and correcting them here, I encourage you ALL to do some research and/or get some refresher training.


img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


So I guess you would disapprove of my AP defense ammunition?

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Jul 5, 2020 10:20:11   #
PH CIB
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So I guess you would disapprove of my AP defense ammunition?


Being an Ex Combat Soldier and having to Fight Against Soldiers taking Cover behind Trees and Rocks and Bushes and Depressions in the Ground,,,,Penetration is Paramount to me over Expansion....That being said good luck on AP or Amour Piercing Ammo,,,,I did some sandbag tests a few years ago with M16/AR15 556 62 grain bullets with the steel core and 7.62X39 full Metal Jacket bullets not AP AK47 ammo and 308 Battle Rifle full Metal Jacket Ammo not AP,,,and at relatively close range none of that Ammunition would penetrate one sandbag laying horizontal to the Shooter....So I dug out my Bolt Action .458 Magnum Dangerous Game Rifle shooting steel jacketed 500 Grain Bullets and it shot through two sandbags one horizontal and right behind it another sandbag layed out vertical or lengthwise to the shooter...For the OP's Great Little Concealed Carry Snub Nose Revolver Self Defense Hollow Points or even FMJ is not as important as getting rounds quickly on Target killing or incapacitating the Bad Guy before he kills You....

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Jul 5, 2020 11:29:14   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
Marturo wrote:
. . . I know we will be alone & scared
when you most need the Police.

It's like they say, "when seconds count the cops are minutes away".

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Jul 5, 2020 12:33:14   #
Najataagihe
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So I guess you would disapprove of my AP defense ammunition?

For use on humans in a civilian setting, yes, I would disapprove, as you are unnecessarily putting innocents at risk.

Try defending your choice of that ammo in court.


Civilian self defense is not military combat.

What is needed for one is inappropriate for the other.


Indeed, requirements even change in military engagements, depending on the mission.

What is needed in a jungle is not what is needed in a desert is not what is needed in the woods, etc.

You don't have to worry about what ammo you use in a military conflict, unless you modify it, as you have no choice in what to use.


As a civilian, however, it is critical that you choose your equipment wisely, because you always have THREE battles for each engagement.

First, you have to survive the fight.

Second, you have to defend against possible criminal charges.

Third, regardless of the outcome of the second, you have to defend against civil charges brought about by family seeking revenge.


You might want to reconsider your choices and make those that will allow you to win all three battles.

The cost of losing any one of them is considerable.


There is no place for macho in a two-way shooting gallery - military or civilian.

You are, or course, free to choose as you please.

That's why we served, in the first place.


Choose wisely.

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Jul 5, 2020 13:04:10   #
ntonkin Loc: western Upper Peninusla of Michigan
 
Amielee wrote:
Thanks for the reply: I'm 85 and have had several inputs. One lady I talked to said do it. I had mine done and it was the best thing I ever did. (same as you) I talked to two Physiotherapist and asked them if they had any patients who had had a total shoulder and their response was "Yes, They think they traded a little pain for a whole lot." Another lady who is a neighbor when we go to AZ for the winter had one and she said she would have to think long and hard before having another. She is still in PT for it though. So at my age I doubt I will have it done.
Thanks for the reply: I'm 85 and have had several... (show quote)


I'm 72 and I've had both shoulders done, 7 years apart, and it does make a tremendous difference in quality of life. Shoulder replacement is the most difficult replacement surgery - Brian Cole at Rush in Chicago is who did my right shoulder 3 years ago and he is one of the best in the country. It was a day's drive down there, which I was happy to do as I was willing to travel anywhere to get someone who was very skilled and very experienced. I don't know about you, but I don't want anybody "practicing" on me. Cole really knows what he is doing and does 12 - 15 shoulder replacements a month. Cole accepted Medicare also. Whatever you decide, best of luck.

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Jul 5, 2020 13:13:32   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
ntonkin wrote:
I'm 72 and I've had both shoulders done, 7 years apart, and it does make a tremendous difference in quality of life. Shoulder replacement is the most difficult replacement surgery - Brian Cole at Rush in Chicago is who did my right shoulder 3 years ago and he is one of the best in the country. It was a day's drive down there, which I was happy to do as I was willing to travel anywhere to get someone who was very skilled and very experienced. I don't know about you, but I don't want anybody "practicing" on me. Cole really knows what he is doing and does 12 - 15 shoulder replacements a month. Cole accepted Medicare also. Whatever you decide, best of luck.
I'm 72 and I've had both shoulders done, 7 years a... (show quote)


Thank You for your response: I live in Eastern Washington State. We do have some very good surgeons here also.

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Jul 5, 2020 13:24:45   #
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