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Jun 26, 2020 09:20:52   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Frankly all of Trump's shortcomings that you list and gosh knows even how many more there are do not make Joe Biden any different than he is. My suggestion is to taut Joe Biden's attributes and accomplishments and not Trumps negative points elsewise it is merely a comparison between a rattlesnake and a cobra debating which is the most deadly. Actually, regardless of what one bites it's bad news.

I'm okay with those that hate Trump and I'm okay with any information that they may use to support why. What I'm not okay with however is expecting to believe that Joe Biden came down the mountain after talking to the burning bush carrying the stone tablets in his hands.

If you told me that America deserves better than both of them then I would raise my glass in a toast to your wisdom.
Frankly all of Trump's shortcomings that you list ... (show quote)


I agree with most of what you have written here and in prior posts. Essentially we are again forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. However, there is one key distinction for me and it will cause me to vote for Biden.

With Biden, I feel he will make decisions based on what he feels is best for the country. With Trump, I feel he makes decisions based on what he feels is best for Trump.

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Jun 26, 2020 09:26:48   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
China wants Trump to be re-elected because he is an isolationist, and will put the U.S. in a position to wage any war, trade or otherwise, totally by itself with no allied support. Biden, conversely, will use European and other world allies in a united front to keep China in line.
America is stronger with world allies, and weaker as an isolationist country—and China knows that.

That is one of the many differences between Trump and Biden; aside from the obvious that Trump has no scruples, no respect for the rule of law, and is mentally deranged.
China wants Trump to be re-elected because he is a... (show quote)


Sound political analysis regarding Chinese interests. Regarding the self-proclaimed "stable genius", I believe his actions prove your conclusion.

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Jun 26, 2020 09:28:00   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
mwalsh wrote:
Do you folks realize we are experiencing the Trifecta of national emergencies?

Right now...today.

From across a spectrum of decades...we are currently experiencing the perfect storm of the Spanish Flu pandemic of the 1910's, the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960's, and the Great Depression of the 1930's.

What President in at least somewhat recent memory (you know, three or four decades) could have risen to be the voice of hope, the voice of national unity, the voice of guiding principles, in such shaky, turbulent times?

I would guess......NONE.

Now I freely admit that Boss Donnie has utterly failed at becoming a National Leader in a time of Crisis. He is a boss, not a Leader.

But how good would you have been at navigating these waters?

Trump can't be blamed for causing the crisis.

It is not his fault. It is life's fault.

OK, so he has been flacid in responding to the the trifecta...

But what the hell would you have done to prevent this mess?
Do you folks realize we are experiencing the Trife... (show quote)


I am not the president of the USA with a team of Scientists, doctors other experts. If I was I would have listened to them. I would not have disbanded the pandemic alert team the might have given us a heads up and maybe an early start handling the pandemic. I would have been more transparent and truthful and formed a team to coordinate the distribution of PPE's, ventilators and other needed supplies. I would have worked with states, CDC, and other public health organizations for a nation policy. I would have taken leadership instead of leaving it up to the states to fight it out for their needs. Italy, Spain, NJ,NY, Conn, and Boston all were hit hard early and we should have learned their experience but we didn't and the results are now being seen in the south and west.

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Jun 26, 2020 09:39:16   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Rose42 wrote:
Good grief, here we go again with inane assumptions. I didn't vote for him nor will I. What is wrong with some of you nuts? There is a growing number of us who never voted for him and sure won't vote for the democrat deadbeat either. There is no sense in that.

So in essence, its people like you that are part of the problem. You supported a deadbeat candidate last time and you are this time too. It's not logical.


What is not logical .... those of us who knew Trump from our positions in NY Banking ..... knew the POS he is .... so if you believe that Hillary was worse than Trump .... I strongly disagree ..... since you did not vote for either .... you are responsible, as well as others who thought like you, for his election ..... a vote for Jill Stein was a vote for Donald Trump .... keep hoping for an electable third party candidate .... it will not happen in your or my lifetime .... you have to work with the hand you are dealt ....

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Jun 26, 2020 10:11:04   #
Rose42
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
Here is a link to an article describing the reasoning behind the estimates of lives that could have been saved if earlier COVID preventative and control actions were taken by the administration. The article is based on research done at Columbia University. The article is from the New York Times which many here believe is fake news. I won't get involved in that debate but simply provide this link for others as I found the article useful and informative.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html
Here is a link to an article describing the reason... (show quote)


I've read it. His claim was 124,000+ deaths could have been avoided. A foolish claim. Some deaths could have been but how many is just conjecture.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:14:33   #
Rose42
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
What is not logical .... those of us who knew Trump from our positions in NY Banking ..... knew the POS he is .... so if you believe that Hillary was worse than Trump .... I strongly disagree ..... since you did not vote for either .... you are responsible, as well as others who thought like you, for his election ..... a vote for Jill Stein was a vote for Donald Trump .... keep hoping for an electable third party candidate .... it will not happen in your or my lifetime .... you have to work with the hand you are dealt ....
What is not logical .... those of us who knew Trum... (show quote)


Wrong. Its your brand of thinking that keeps this cycle of deadbeats going. Look at what you just wrote - "you have to work with the hand you are dealt". We are the ones that are supposed to be in control but obviously candidates are being chosen for us. Its madness to continue this downward cycle.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:16:13   #
lARRY1 Loc: southern nc
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
It is very much the President’s job to unite the country, especially in a time of crisis. That is what a real leader does, and the ability often comes natural to a real leader. .
You take the position that is is not only because Trump has worked, and continues to work so hard to divide the country.
Trump has failed on every front.



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Jun 26, 2020 10:18:08   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
A true voice of reason. There was only one guy that could have handled this trifecta of National Emergencies and he was nailed to a cross a long time ago.


Doesn't seem he handled his own situation all that well.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:24:15   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Rose42 wrote:
Wrong. Its your brand of thinking that keeps this cycle of deadbeats going. Look at what you just wrote - "you have to work with the hand you are dealt". We are the ones that are supposed to be in control but obviously candidates are being chosen for us. Its madness to continue this downward cycle.


Rosa Klebb sez (yet again) ... "You Libtards will never understand, me and Rose42 always vote independent.

From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb death scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zai6SJp6KDc

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Jun 26, 2020 10:27:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Way Cool...! Gosh, I'm glad the 70's have past for some of it was pretty corny. The cartoon graphics pales in comparison to the CGI of today like we see in the latest Star Wars episodes. I will say that the airplane in this video was something quite special.

And, you are right. The Osmonds did say that One Bad Apple does not spoil the whole bunch. By the way, I had always thought that Marie Osmond was one of the most beautiful women through the years.


Keep in mind that most of the crazy's here are Christion and don't believe that Mormons are. Donny and Marie's grandfather was a polygamist. Is this relevant to anything? I can't decide that for you.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:29:55   #
Rose42
 
Texcaster wrote:
Rosa Klebb sez (yet again) ... "You Libtards will never understand, me and Rose42 always vote independent.

From Russia With Love - Rosa Klebb death scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zai6SJp6KDc


Chief Wingding gets it wrong again.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:31:17   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
What is not logical .... those of us who knew Trump from our positions in NY Banking ..... knew the POS he is .... so if you believe that Hillary was worse than Trump .... I strongly disagree ..... since you did not vote for either .... you are responsible, as well as others who thought like you, for his election ..... a vote for Jill Stein was a vote for Donald Trump .... keep hoping for an electable third party candidate .... it will not happen in your or my lifetime .... you have to work with the hand you are dealt ....
What is not logical .... those of us who knew Trum... (show quote)


You are appealing to reason with no reason to believe it exists.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:33:53   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Texcaster wrote:
Get sober. Trump has presided over a failed administration and is now overwhelmed with crisis and chaos and of course the most important consideration for him ...

"Bad Ratings Chief! Crappy Optics Big Guy! Melania has a date with Trudeau!" - soon to be ex WH staffers.


And the sniveling cockroaches had to move to Australia (who really lowered the bar) because they have never had an original idea
in their life.

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Jun 26, 2020 10:40:34   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Rose42 wrote:
Wrong. Its your brand of thinking that keeps this cycle of deadbeats going. Look at what you just wrote - "you have to work with the hand you are dealt". We are the ones that are supposed to be in control but obviously candidates are being chosen for us. Its madness to continue this downward cycle.


starting at a time before George Washington was chosen to be the first President, there have been many attempts to field a third party candidate and attempts to reform the way parties choose candidates ..... all have failed(except Lincoln's second term) ....... evidently a majority of the country lacks the desire to change the system ..... that being said .... I refer you to Einstein's definition of insanity .....

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Jun 26, 2020 10:44:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Checkmate wrote:
And the sniveling cockroaches had to move to Australia (who really lowered the bar) because they have never had an original idea
in their life.


Not only do you not have any original thoughts, you don't have any that originated in this century, and not many that originated in the last.

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