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Jun 22, 2020 13:33:15   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I don’t wear mask. Welcome to Comunist America.



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Jun 22, 2020 14:16:29   #
bodiebill
 
StanMac wrote:
What the hell is the matter with you people?!!! Do you lack all common sense, decency, and caring for your family and friends?! If you have the virus and wear a mask it will provide a measure of protection from the virus for those around you. Are you so self involved that the well being of those you socialize with is of no consequence? Do you care for no one but yourself?

Stan


'Sic em Stan!

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Jun 22, 2020 14:16:45   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 

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Jun 22, 2020 14:21:15   #
Ichiban365
 
"Go kill some babies, creep ass."

That sort of comment is not appropriate for this forum. Please find somewhere else display your feelings of insecurity and inferiority.

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Jun 22, 2020 14:29:04   #
DoninIL Loc: East Central Illinois
 
StanMac wrote:
What the hell is the matter with you people?!!! Do you lack all common sense, decency, and caring for your family and friends?! If you have the virus and wear a mask it will provide a measure of protection from the virus for those around you. Are you so self involved that the well being of those you socialize with is of no consequence? Do you care for no one but yourself?

Stan



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Jun 22, 2020 14:50:10   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
Ichiban365 wrote:
If you really don't like the government interfering in your life, please return that $1200 check you recently received.


I already did.

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Jun 22, 2020 14:50:45   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
srt101fan wrote:
These mask discussions sadden me. The usefulness of facial coverings in reducing the spread of Covid-19 is very clear to me. I struggle to understand why it isn’t to everybody.

Those who have politicized the issue and are more worried about losing “control” of their lives than the loss of lives to the virus are beyond intellectual reach. Rational, fact-based argument is pointless. But there are other mask objectors, perhaps more open to honest conversation, that I would like to address.

I see three points of discussion: (1) mask filtration effectiveness; (2) wearing a mask to protect others from you; and (3) wearing a mask to protect yourself.

(1) Mask filtration effectiveness: This has to be addressed in the context of the “challenge” seen by the filter, i.e. the stuff you’re trying to keep from going through the filter. Yes, lets all agree, the vast majority of masks out there do not have the filtration effectiveness required to filter out individual viruses. But, so what? As some said earlier in the thread, the airborne transmission threat of the virus is via small droplets of saliva or nasal discharge. How effective are these masks in reducing that threat? Depends on type, construction and fit of mask. BUT THEY ALL REDUCE THE AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION THREAT TO SOME EXTENT!

(2) Wearing a mask to protect others from you: You say you’re healthy and not a threat to anyone. Of course you don’t know that! You could be asymptomatic, not be aware that you are a carrier. You say, yeah, but my personal freedom, comfort and right to control my life outweighs the risk of infecting someone else. I ask you to reconsider.… are you really that lacking in compassion and consideration for others? But, you say, masks don’t work anyway so why bother. Masks DO work in reducing contamination spread by asymptomatic carriers; don’t let fact-deniers tell you otherwise.

(3) Wearing a mask to protect yourself: The early word was that the general public did not need to mask up. The authorities actually went so far as to say that it was inadvisable for people other than those in high threat environments to wear them. I believe this guidance was issued to prevent a run on masks that were already in critically short supply. The authorities wanted to save the masks for health care professionals and others that needed them.
Well and good, but the message that came through is that the masks don’t protect you, the wearer, they only protect other people from your ejection of saliva and nasal discharge droplets. To this day, it seems the message still is for people to wear masks only to keep asymptomatic carriers from contaminating others. Usually NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT WEARING A MASK TO PROTECT YOURSELF! A mask, depending on type, construction and fit WILL provide you with a level of protection from airborne inhalation hazards. If not so, why do health professionals working with Covid-19 patients wear them and why are they so alarmed about mask shortages??

To summarize, wearing a mask will not only reduce the probability of you contaminating someone else, but it will also reduce the risk of you inhaling virus-laden droplets. This is not an all-or-nothing proposition. Yes, most of the masks we see will not give you full protection from an ambient inhalation hazard. But the name of the game is RISK REDUCTION! For me, almost any percentage of risk reduction is worth putting up with the hassle of wearing a mask when I go out in public. Add to that the satisfaction that I’m helping protect my fellow humans from me and it’s a no brainer…..

Please, wear your masks and encourage others that if they wear a mask it's not only good for protecting the other guy but is also good for protecting themselves!

Stay safe y’all!

And thanks to the OP for starting this thread with a great post!
These mask discussions sadden me. The usefulness ... (show quote)

Nicely done. Thanks

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Jun 22, 2020 14:58:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I don’t wear mask. Welcome to Comunist America.

I cooperate with our elected Republican Governor - it could be a lot worse. He replaced Mike Pence, incidentally

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Jun 22, 2020 15:21:11   #
srt101fan
 
gsmith051 wrote:
Nicely done. Thanks


Thanks for your response. I do get frustrated that there isn't more talk of the protection afforded the mask wearer. They still urge everyone to wear masks to keep asymptomatic carriers from spreading the disease. A valid reason, for sure, but maybe more people would wear masks if they realized they are also protecting themselves!

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Jun 22, 2020 15:29:52   #
Najataagihe
 
exakta56 wrote:
Stan, You have said what needs to be said. I cringe each time i
I am confronted by an unmasked person. They are self'centered and,how can I put this kindly....oh well STUPID

Thank you, so much.

My doctors have specifically forbidden me to wear one.


Don’t be so quick to judge.

It makes you look short-sighted and foolish.

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Jun 22, 2020 15:37:42   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Najataagihe wrote:
Thank you, so much.

My doctors have specifically forbidden me to wear one.Don’t be so quick to judge.

It makes you look short-sighted and foolish.

Short sighted and foolish?? The people who wear masks want everyone to live past next week.

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Jun 22, 2020 16:09:31   #
CWGordon
 
I don’t think so. It is a reminder to back up, have some respect, and stop risking “my” health!

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Jun 22, 2020 17:05:10   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 

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Jun 22, 2020 17:18:28   #
HOHIMER
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Go kill some babies, creep ass.


Please take your moronic rhetoric elsewhere.

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Jun 22, 2020 17:39:04   #
Najataagihe
 
rehess wrote:
Short sighted and foolish?? The people who wear masks want everyone to live past next week.

Yes, short-sighted and foolish.

Sort-sighted because one can't see past one's own fears and prejudices.

Foolish, because one value one's opinion more than facts.


Life is risky, no matter what you do.

Learning to deal with it USED to be a sign of maturity.


The trick is to figure out how to mitigate your circumstances to increase your chance of survival.

Yammering at me because I can't wear a mask is not going to do anything but annoy me and lower my respect for you.


Try ASKING, before jumping to conclusions.

You just might learn something.


(Whatever-Deity-you-hold-Holy-forbid!)


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