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Jun 20, 2020 09:03:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
sodapop wrote:
Two monitors for me are a great way to follow a tutorial. One for the tutorial and one to work on the your photo


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Jun 20, 2020 09:25:37   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Doc Barry wrote:
Thanks for the comments and links Gene. I believe you misread what I wrote. In short, my point again was that it is desirable to have the monitor be able to view the color space consistent with the output medium. Process in ProPhoto RGB color space with the output objective being sRGB is fine if the display is sRGB. If the output objective is aRGB and the monitor is sRGB, then you have a less desirable configuration. This is just a concise explanation.

These are both good links you have provided and I would encourage others to read them.
Thanks for the comments and links Gene. I believe... (show quote)


That was my understanding. While I agree that it would be frustrating trying to edit an image that will be printed on a wide gamut printer using sRGB, I think the reverse, is at all a bad thing. Using an sRGB display for sRGB output can lead to out of gamut (for sRGB) colors not being rendered on the screen correctly, as well as transitions. I am using wider gamut 10 bit displays, processing in ProPhoto, then using the printer profiles to display the image(s) in the printer's color space, and then I make adjustments to the image and/or select a rendering intent that best suits the image, using the sRGB or aRGB based printer profiles. In the past, before I had 10 bit Adobe RGB-capable displays, my results were not as consistent as what I am getting now.

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Jun 20, 2020 10:08:19   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Thanks for the latest info. Like most or us out here in the real world, Both of those are out of our budgets. To me it is sort of like putting a CD player in your model A Ford. Really overkill. Most home printers as well as many affordable printing companies like Cosco and Waldgreens do not have the printers to handle such high end prints. I don't have a 4K or now 8K TV since very few shows are broadcast in that format. For $30K I could make a substantial dent in my home mortgage. But time and technology marches on. The prices get lower and lower. If you like it today, buy it, for tomorrow something newer, better and maybe cheeper will take it's place.

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Jun 20, 2020 11:06:25   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Those with a critical eye benefit from an expensive dead nuts color display and should spend the money if able. I have two 32” middle of the road Dell monitors on my desk that satisfy my needs. I don’t print... well, hardly ever so output is almost exclusively a screen of some kind and does the trick. To my way of thinking, like most everything else, does the cost delta to achieve the next level justify? It all comes down to end use and the eye of the beholder. Briefly, on the subject of TVs. Years ago I bought a 52” Sony XBR for $3000, only to see replaced within two years by a better TV at half the price. Four years ago, I bought a 65” XBR and moved the 52” to the basement in front of exercise equipment. The FOLLOWING year, the same 65” could be found for less than half of what I paid. I won’t learn, of course. 🥺

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Jun 20, 2020 11:16:52   #
adamsg Loc: Chubbuck, ID
 
quixdraw wrote:


One is enough for the enthusiast photographer, camera, and a tweak or two. The photos tell the tale.


I agree that one monitor is enough unless you are a very demanding high-end photographer. Even then, I am not sure I see a real benefit (no pun intended:). I have seen a number of comments advising not to use sGRB, but rather Adobe RGB, both in shooting and then in post-processing. This pre-supposes wanting the most accurate color rendition of prints. If you are just sending photos over the internet or for casual use, sRGB is okay. I use Adobe RGB at all times and the results please me, and my lab.

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Jun 20, 2020 14:33:02   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Personally, I use two monitors on both my iMac PRO and my office W10 machine. I have become so used to doing things that way, I just prefer the extra space. Needed? No. Nice? Absolutely! YMMV. Best of luck.

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Jun 20, 2020 15:44:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Two monitors can come in handy for many things, not just photo editing. Much more expedient that switching windows:
Genealogy program on one, Internet research on the other;
Bank statement PDFs on one, Quicken on the other;
HTML editor and FTP program on one; the page on the internet on the other;
probably many more.

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Jun 20, 2020 17:11:24   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
While I seldom (read almost never) need dual monitors, I have used the screen from my 17" laptop in conjunction with the 27" desktop screen. For following along with tutorials I just open 2 windows, giving the working image most of the real estate.

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Jun 20, 2020 22:48:53   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
Doc Barry wrote:
Hi Paul,

You are quite correct about the prices coming down. I saw a 4K 65" TV the other day at a local store for under $600. I'm also not interested in spending $5K or $30K on a display. However, there will be I understand 8K UHD TVs being offered in the near future that utilize the quantum dot technology that can achieve Rec.2020 color space which is close to ProPhoto RGB. The good news is that these displays will likely be at 65" as that is the manufacturing sweet spot for the 8K panels. Affordable prices should be expected. These will be 10-bit capable too. The current 4K and 8K low price displays are using the current LEDs. When the quantum-dot coated LEDs become readily available, the 8K UHD TVs covering the REC.2020 will become available.

The 32", 4K, 10-bit ASUS ProArt PA329C can achieve an impressive 84% coverage of the Rec.2020 and for $1,100. It allows the user to select the display gamut too.

Of course a small problem for some folks will be where to place a 65" display. I would like to try!
Hi Paul, br br You are quite correct about the pr... (show quote)


I just grew my monitor from 27" to 32". My office/PP desk can accommodate a 65" screen. My eyes might have more trouble. I can imagine one eye wanting to "take in " the right image area while the other eye wanted to observe the left part of the image area. Might have to increase the working distance to the screen. Bring it on!
😊👍👍👍

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Jun 21, 2020 00:27:28   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
Paul Diamond wrote:
I just grew my monitor from 27" to 32". My office/PP desk can accommodate a 65" screen. My eyes might have more trouble. I can imagine one eye wanting to "take in " the right image area while the other eye wanted to observe the left part of the image area. Might have to increase the working distance to the screen. Bring it on!
😊👍👍👍


Roger that Paul!

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