Give me a break
Jun 13, 2020 09:46:46 #
Picture Taker
Loc: Michigan Thumb
Charles 46277 Go to Europe then. I don't think we are prefect and may never get to that point, but I have traveled affair amount Europe and Asia etc, We ain't bad and keep trying. The had part in the USA is to vote for a good person who really gives a dam about the people. Today a Politician is a profession instead of a person doing the job for us.
Jun 13, 2020 09:58:04 #
stbg1951
Loc: Lewes, DE
Frank T wrote:
Actually, your belief is wrong. Today, most police in England are unarmed. The latest figure I could find, from 2019 was that 5% of the police officers in England are armed.
So, I can only deduce that the system did actually work and your belief that it didn't is based upon erroneous information.
I hope I haven't ruined your day.
So, I can only deduce that the system did actually work and your belief that it didn't is based upon erroneous information.
I hope I haven't ruined your day.
Big difference in people in each country.
In 1998 I was in Paris when France won the World Cup. People took to the streets singing the National anthem and thanking God. The city basically met at the arch de triumph (sp) with infants on their shoulders. At the same time there were celebrations because a team won a championship game. Stores were looted and cars were set on fire and others turned over. The difference between a European celebration and a US celebration. It was a trip with high schoolers and they saw the difference first hand. One never made world news and one did. You guess which.
Jun 13, 2020 10:07:19 #
Alas, I can't afford Europe (and don't speak in tongues) or the high-class places in the USA, either. Most countries don't want pensioners unless they bring big investments with them. And here in the USA I have never had trouble with the law myself (75 years old), but I would rather see better justice for others too.
No system gives justice--that only comes from the people who administer it. The courtroom gives us a theater in which justice can be performed, but only if the participants are all fair and just. When I served on jury, I was always surprised at how seriously the other jurors (and the judges) wanted to be fair--not at all like movies or TV. Some Americans too often confuse entertainment with reality.
No system gives justice--that only comes from the people who administer it. The courtroom gives us a theater in which justice can be performed, but only if the participants are all fair and just. When I served on jury, I was always surprised at how seriously the other jurors (and the judges) wanted to be fair--not at all like movies or TV. Some Americans too often confuse entertainment with reality.
Jun 13, 2020 10:20:40 #
stbg1951
Loc: Lewes, DE
Being a school trip it was very low cost for what we got. 2 weeks all meals and four countries for 1500. Only reason we went. Re moving there a lot of countries require you prove you have money in the bank and can support yourself and a month down the road not have to live off the countries system. I fully support that model.
Jun 13, 2020 10:37:07 #
Charles 46277 wrote:
Outlawing crime does not prevent crime, but it giv... (show quote)
This is a fantasy infringement list.
There are plenty of politicians seeking total bans on firearms.
Please show me your SCOTUS claim. Even Oregon has open carry.
Most sheriffs are pro gun. They are defenders of the 2nd.
“Deter wanted men”? What about women?
Let me know when all the criminals have turned in all their weapons.
Jun 13, 2020 11:52:59 #
Alafoto
Loc: Montgomery, AL
silver wrote:
It is reasonable to demand that the police follow their motto, "to protect and serve." Beating the crap out of people is not what they are supposed to do. There has to be a better way
There is a better way. The mobs can obey commands to disperse.
Jun 13, 2020 12:03:12 #
Picture Taker
Loc: Michigan Thumb
People all respond differently and smart is to know what and how to respond on different situation. You don't want to lose it's better to break even then lose.
When a gun goes off you can't retract what happens. Lesson taught to me by Uncle Sam.
When a gun goes off you can't retract what happens. Lesson taught to me by Uncle Sam.
Jun 13, 2020 12:05:13 #
silver wrote:
It is reasonable to demand that the police follow their motto, "to protect and serve." Beating the crap out of people is not what they are supposed to do. There has to be a better way
They find it fast and doing it right looks like, even the Democrat Congressman is bitching about them
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/they-didnt-care-chicago-police-napped-in-democrat-congressmans-office-as-looters-ran-wild/
Jun 13, 2020 12:16:17 #
silver wrote:
It is reasonable to demand that the police follow their motto, "to protect and serve." Beating the crap out of people is not what they are supposed to do. There has to be a better way
I absolutely agree with you. The motto "To Protect and Serve" is to protect and serve the law abiding citizens from criminal elements as a major part of their mission.
Arson is a Felony.
Assault with a weapon is a Felony.
Murder is a Felony.
Weapons and ammunition in the position of a Felon is a Felony.
Grand theft is a Felony.
Threatening and/or attempting to harm an Officer of the Law is a Felony.
The list goes on.
The sworn duty of the Officer is to Protect the community from unlawful acts including as minor as not wearing a seat belt.
If one does not like the Police protecting their community from unlawful acts, change the laws...not the police hired to enforce them. Remove the bad actors on both sides and society will live happily ever after....sure it will.
Jun 13, 2020 14:05:33 #
Give the offenders ( like in Chicago ) a kinder gentler pat on the head and ask them to cease and desist. Let's see how well that works. 
Jun 13, 2020 15:06:43 #
Not much is said on here about one problem regarding the use of lethal force by Police departments employees, namely their obvious intent to shoot to Kill and not to just stop the percieved law offender only. We had cases here in the north where the Police department employee shot and killed a native woman that has had a knife in her hand. He could have shot her in the leg, arm shoulder, you name it. Well trained Police department employee attendee of target shooting practices, gym visitor etc. And he feared for HIS life from a woman....
Then we had another tough police department employee fire 9 rounds into a suspect armed with a knife inside the empty bus, the police department employee was safe on the outside of the said empty bus....He too feared for his life, the suspect just dropped to the bus floor still clutching knife.. An officer? it would suggest certain degree of honor, not in such cases1
Then we had another tough police department employee fire 9 rounds into a suspect armed with a knife inside the empty bus, the police department employee was safe on the outside of the said empty bus....He too feared for his life, the suspect just dropped to the bus floor still clutching knife.. An officer? it would suggest certain degree of honor, not in such cases1
Jun 13, 2020 15:11:01 #
howIseeit wrote:
Not much is said on here about one problem regardi... (show quote)
There was a case in San Francisco several years ago involving a mentally ill man in a movie theater with a knife. They got the theater evacuated, leaving the man and 5 or 6 police officers. The best solution they could come up with was to shoot him to death. There's got to be a better way.
Jun 13, 2020 15:35:32 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
There was a case in San Francisco several years ago involving a mentally ill man in a movie theater with a knife. They got the theater evacuated, leaving the man and 5 or 6 police officers. The best solution they could come up with was to shoot him to death. There's got to be a better way.
I agree, it should have taken just one police officer to stop a deadly threat.
Jun 13, 2020 15:47:12 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
I agree, it should have taken just one police officer to stop a deadly threat.
But given that there were several officers, is there really no other solution than killing him? If the guy had a gun and pointed it at an officer, sure, shoot him. But with a knife, no civilians as risk, contained inside the theater, if there isn't a way to subdue him without taking his life, one should be developed.
Jun 13, 2020 16:40:01 #
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