Question about extremely high ISO (Page 3): There’s nothing new about ISO 3million. “Useable” ???? Thaz situational. But regardless of high noise levels you can take your D6 pix to the...

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Howard5252 wrote:

The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??

There’s nothing new about ISO 3million.

“Useable” ???? Thaz situational. But regardless of high noise levels you can take your D6 pix to the bank just like the D5 pix before that.

The D6 is for making money. ISO 3million will get the money pix in very difficult situations. Money pix are very different from UHH geek IQ hobbyist pix.

SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina

Howard5252 wrote:

STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.

Thank you!

Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida

f8lee wrote:

Well, here are samples at various high ISO settings that DPReview did with the D5:

https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/4688833174/nikon-d5-real-world-high-iso-samples/7028772976

I must say even at ISO 409600 it's a pretty decent image - it does fall apart above that and at the 3 million mark is barely useful (unless you are a paparazzo stalking a celebrity or something)

Thank you f8lee....that was amazing to see the step by step comparisons of that image......quite impressive and cameras have come a long way these last few years.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Agree, and as processors, sensors and electronics get better the high iso performance will continue to improve.

jerryc41 wrote:

Well, it's a case of getting a picture or getting nothing. Sometimes, anything is better than nothing. Over time, high ISO shooting will get better and better.

turp77 Loc: Connecticut, Plainfield

Howard5252 wrote:

STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Very high ISOs trash the dynamic range, color, tone, and sharpness of the sensor's output in your super camera.

rcarol

The only point that I want to make is that as extremely high ISOs become available to us, the lower ISOs become more acceptable. 12,800 is the new 3,200. Combined with ever-improving software that reduces the effects of noise, images taken at higher ISOs are becoming very usable.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

Howard5252 wrote:

The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??

Put it this way, if you are in near pitch black or it's simply very dark out, and you are surveilling someone that is cheating on his wife, and you needed proof that he's cheating, a grainy picture is ok in this case. Is it a wall hanger? NO! It's NOT. But you got the shot and proof.

crooner Loc: Portland, OR

Most of the example photos in the link from the indoor concert have shutter speeds of 1/500 or faster. The answer may be obvious but why wouldn't slowing the shutter speed help? Wouldn't that be a reasonable way to shoot at lower ISO? even handheld?

Yodagirl Loc: All Over-Fulltime RV (Originally from NH)

digit-up wrote:

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Yes-there's serious anger issues going on-ignoring is wise RJM.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Howard5252 wrote:

The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??

What I have seen they are not good for anything. Just marketing.
If you need to go that high Canon has a camera that exceeds that ISO (4,000,000) and has very good quality photos that are actually quite usable.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1187825-REG/canon_1002c002_me20f_sh_multi_purpose_camera.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrIf3BRD1ARIsAMuugNv0eVIkDks9ntNXr9ZPh1UAzXIUkWygFjYhovVDMTfm3LrSQI2LhlwaAtgBEALw_wcB

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Howard5252 wrote:

STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.

Stopping by today, I see an awful lot of talk today that you would have never tolerated when this thread began, but I won't add to it. [unwatch] again.

davesit Loc: Media, PA

jerryc41 wrote:

Well, it's a case of getting a picture or getting nothing. Sometimes, anything is better than nothing. Over time, high ISO shooting will get better and better.

The fact that you can still get a identifiable photo at an ISO of a million is a pretty good achievement. And ISO sensitivity is improving all the time. Does one still need a F1.4 lens anymore?

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Depends on the lens and if you have image stabilization or not. Also if what you are shooting has movement then you need enough shutter speed to stop or mostly stop the motion. A blurry image will be even less useful than a high iso one.

crooner wrote:

Most of the example photos in the link from the indoor concert have shutter speeds of 1/500 or faster. The answer may be obvious but why wouldn't slowing the shutter speed help? Wouldn't that be a reasonable way to shoot at lower ISO? even handheld?

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Yes, fast lenses still have their value and the market continues to provide them...

davesit wrote:

The fact that you can still get a identifiable photo at an ISO of a million is a pretty good achievement. And ISO sensitivity is improving all the time. Does one still need a F1.4 lens anymore?