The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??
The short answer is no. I've seen sample images at 3,280,000 and they're horrible. The spec is great for marketing though.
stevetassi wrote:
The short answer is no. I've seen sample images at 3,280,000 and they're horrible. The spec is great for marketing though.
Marketing......MARKETING, seems to be NIKONS only real BIG “strength”.Otherwise, Got nothin’ much over anybody else, In My NOT-SO HUMBLE opinion!!...........................................................................RJM
digit-up wrote:
MARKETING, seems to be NIKONS only real BIG "strength" ...............RJM
That brings up the question of what an image would look like at ISO 819,200 ? That number is for the Canon EOS-1D Mark iii
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Howard5252 wrote:
The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??
That really depends on which camera you are talking about and how high you want to go. I know of many photographers who think that anything above 400 is ‘pushing it’, but on my Pentax KP, I consider ISO 50000 to be entirely reasonable.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-631428-1.html
rehess wrote:
That really depends on which camera you are talking about and how high you want to go. I know of many photographers who think that anything above 400 is ‘pushing it’, but on my Pentax KP, I consider ISO 50000 to be entirely reasonable.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-631428-1.htmlFunny - in the OP the poster states specifically the Nikon D6 - did you not read that part of the sentence?
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
f8lee wrote:
Funny - in the OP the poster states specifically the Nikon D6 - did you not read that part of the sentence?
If you are so Nikon-centric that you want to limit your discussion to that particular camera and its $$$$ pricetag, then so be it.
f8lee wrote:
Funny - in the OP the poster states specifically the Nikon D6 - did you not read that part of the sentence?
STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.
rehess wrote:
If you are so Nikon-centric that you want to limit your discussion to that particular camera and its $$$$ pricetag, then so be it.
STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.
Howard5252 wrote:
The Nikon D6 ad claims regarding the ISO: "... can be further expanded to ISO 50-3280000 (Lo 1 to Hi 5) to handle the most challenging of situations."
Does anyone know what the noise looks like at ISO 3,280,000 ??? Are the images actually usable?
I wonder what they mean by "challenging of situations"? Can it really take a photo of a black cat in a coal mine??
The examples, while not from a D6, illustrate the reality of using the extremely high ISO sensitivities on any camera (including film pushed to higher speeds). Increasing sensitivity comes at the expense of decreased dynamic range and increased susceptibility to noise. Advancing technology has improved overall performance and mitigated this impact quite a bit...compare what can be done with a D850 against what could be done with a D200 or D300. The same problems still exist at the top part of the range, they've just been pushed further up the scale.
I remember years ago needing to be able to capture some elements of machine operation in a poorly lighted factory. Stopping motion was part of the equation, but using flash was was not a feasible option. We sort of accomplished what we needed...finally. But it would have been so much better to have one of today's cameras.
So the answer to your question is that it just might be possible to capture an image of that cat. But for best results, it is going to need to sit very still for some period of time. And please note...I have a dog whose official color is "blue." It's a flavor of a color somewhere just on the gray side of black. It is difficult to capture a photograph of her in daylight. So sometimes its not just sensitivity that makes a difference.
Howard5252 wrote:
STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails.
I disagree - these threads go off the rails when idiots who have a need to hear themselves talk (or in this case, write) don't pay attention to the original question so as to proffer their own (unwanted) opinions. The OP asked about the D6. I replied with samples DPReview made with a D5 (because naturally, if anything, Nikon would make improvements over time, right?). And then the inimitable @rehess opted to make insulting comments - apparently still not having read the original question (or perhaps having English as a second language?)
I'm sure I have thusly offended the self same idiots - and in fact that is unimportant. If one wants to contribute to a thread by adding something useful in response to the original question, that's great (though if 30 people have already entered the same answer then it's just ego that makes one want to add their "voice", which is itself a sad thing). But the post was about the D6's claims. Not a Pentax. Not a benro tripod, or a Better Beemer flash adapter. The Nikon D6.
Sorry, I just don't cotton to stupid, and see it in evidence all too often online (here and elsewhere).
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
f8lee wrote:
I disagree - these threads go off the rails when idiots who have a need to hear themselves talk (or in this case, write) don't pay attention to the original question so as to proffer their own (unwanted) opinions. The OP asked about the D6. I replied with samples DPReview made with a D5 (because naturally, if anything, Nikon would make improvements over time, right?). And then the inimitable @rehess opted to make insulting comments - apparently still not having read the original question (or perhaps having English as a second language?)
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I was showing what a modern manufacturer can provide, but I am finished with this thread
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f8lee wrote:
I disagree - these threads go off the rails when idiots who have a need to hear themselves talk (or in this case, write) don't pay attention to the original question so as to proffer their own (unwanted) opinions. The OP asked about the D6. I replied with samples DPReview made with a D5 (because naturally, if anything, Nikon would make improvements over time, right?). And then the inimitable @rehess opted to make insulting comments - apparently still not having read the original question (or perhaps having English as a second language?)
I'm sure I have thusly offended the self same idiots - and in fact that is unimportant. If one wants to contribute to a thread by adding something useful in response to the original question, that's great (though if 30 people have already entered the same answer then it's just ego that makes one want to add their "voice", which is itself a sad thing). But the post was about the D6's claims. Not a Pentax. Not a benro tripod, or a Better Beemer flash adapter. The Nikon D6.
Sorry, I just don't cotton to stupid, and see it in evidence all too often online (here and elsewhere).
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Did you not notice it was the OP himself who said "STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails."? Then in a subsequent post he mentioned a Canon. So apparently he is OK with it being a general discussion of high ISO noise.
JohnSwanda wrote:
Did you not notice it was the OP himself who said "STOP - this is how the thread goes off the rails."? Then in a subsequent post he mentioned a Canon. So apparently he is OK with it being a general discussion of high ISO noise.
You've got the postings backwards; I used Canon in a post prior to the STOP post, it was not a subsequent post.
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