Covid-19 - for anyone who thinks this isn't serious
Jun 8, 2020 06:41:59 #
Jun 8, 2020 06:51:22 #
DIRTY HARRY
Loc: Hartland, Michigan
Fotoartist wrote:
Relatively tame wars unless you go back one more war and add WWII.
Tame wars? Is that like not testing so you'll have less cases?
Jun 8, 2020 06:51:55 #
Imagine how many people would have died from this virus if we had 1918 technology and medical treatments
Jun 8, 2020 07:43:56 #
It is going to be interesting to see how much of an increase in Covid-19 there will be in the cities that have experienced the recent rioting/demonstrations/vandalism/looting, etc.
Jun 8, 2020 08:04:28 #
2Dragons wrote:
It is going to be interesting to see how much of an increase in Covid-19 there will be in the cities that have experienced the recent rioting/demonstrations/vandalism/looting, etc.
The biggest "issue" will be "outsiders", those who travel from city 1 to demonstrate or riot in city 2, and then return to city 1.
Jun 8, 2020 08:10:24 #
rehess wrote:
The biggest "issue" will be "outsiders", those who travel from city 1 to demonstrate or riot in city 2, and then return to city 1.
Good point!
Jun 8, 2020 08:19:31 #
Went to google to find out approximately how many people die in the USA monthly. In 2019. On average about one quarter of a million people die A month. So putting Covid in the mix’s would put a slight bump in those figures. Just saying.
Jun 8, 2020 08:26:07 #
TMeitz wrote:
Went to google to find out approximately how many people die in the USA monthly. In 2019. On average about one quarter of a million people die A month. So putting Covid in the mix’s would put a slight bump in those figures. Just saying.
I don't see there point in minimizing the deaths attributable to the Corona virus.
I obviously hope not, but the deaths this fall will be more difficult to minimize.
Jun 8, 2020 08:41:40 #
buldog216 wrote:
I do agree that this a very dangerous virus but I really do think that it was and is being over hyped by the media. I also think we need to look closely at the causes of some of the deaths. Not all that are being attributed to Covid-19 actually did die from it. A lot are also from being denied acess to medical treatment due to certain governor's orders about limiting access to the medical care most people would get.
Jun 8, 2020 08:45:36 #
PaulG wrote:
Obviously even a single death is dreadful. But he did use the word "relatively" and I think the analogy was in reference to numbers in general overall, not to make light of any particular field of conflict V another.
I stand by my statement.
Jun 8, 2020 08:49:55 #
[quote=phlash46]I stand by my statement.[/quote
It was a terrible thing to say. That is all, no rationalization makes it acceptable.
It was a terrible thing to say. That is all, no rationalization makes it acceptable.
Jun 8, 2020 08:50:09 #
The funny thing is,a fine for having more than five people in
a gathering,but in a riot,thousands and no fines for it.
Insane!!!!!!
a gathering,but in a riot,thousands and no fines for it.
Insane!!!!!!
Jun 8, 2020 08:53:28 #
tomad wrote:
I was born in 1949. In my lifetime America has been in 5 "wars" that spanned a combined total of 55 years (Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan). The total number of Americans that lost their lives in that 55 years of war is 101,732. Covid-19 surpassed that in 3 months!
True, but what percentage of the 101, 732 lost in war were in chronic failing health, over 80, or both? For COVID, the death totals hover around 80% falling into those categories.
And, if one takes the U.S. life expectancy averages, the average dead soldier lost 45 years of life expectancy, and the average COVID death (because so many who have died were actually over the average life expectancy age) is closer to 18 months. So, even granting the apples-to-oranges comparison of why lives have been lost (even though bad foreign actors led to both groups....) the overall life-time loss of those killed in war averages out 15-20 times as great. Neither set of numbers rates 'good' on any scale but losing 101, 732, almost all men, and almost all in their 20's or 30's is clearly 'worse' for the families and communities than what COVID has wrought.
Economically, COVID stands to be far worse, but hope springs eternal that we can re-start what was, in late 2019 and early this year, the most inclusive set of positive economic numbers in my lifetime.
Jun 8, 2020 09:07:48 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Relatively tame wars unless you go back one more war and add WWII.
Ok, so how about the fact that more people have died (so far) from COVID19 than combatants in WWI and the Vietnam War combined. I wouldn’t call either of those wars “tame”. By August, you may be able to add the Korean War to that.
If (a big if that no one wants to see happen) it comes back in the fall, we might see the virus overtake the combat deaths from WWII.
Without a vaccine, the next number up are Union combat deaths in the Civil War, followed by Confederate numbers.
How many deaths will it take some people to consider COVID19 a real problem that has to be taken seriously?
From my point of view, I despise those who view the deaths of those from the Greatest Generation to be less serious than if the virus were killing members of their cohort. The ones dying are the same ones that made our country great.
Jun 8, 2020 10:15:52 #
hoola wrote:
While I am definitely not saying that this virus i... (show quote)
I guess that you've already worked out where all those Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen are going to work instead of in the military?
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