Covid-19 - for anyone who thinks this isn't serious
Jun 7, 2020 12:35:07 #
tomad
Loc: North Carolina
I was born in 1949. In my lifetime America has been in 5 "wars" that spanned a combined total of 55 years (Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan). The total number of Americans that lost their lives in that 55 years of war is 101,732. Covid-19 surpassed that in 3 months!
Jun 7, 2020 12:48:36 #
Jun 7, 2020 12:55:52 #
JeffL
Loc: New Jersey
All of those states that either didn’t lockdown or opened up too soon are now experiencing major increases on the number of new cases. We’ll find ou in a couple of weeks if the protests caused a surge.
Jun 7, 2020 12:58:37 #
Jun 7, 2020 13:02:46 #
stanikon wrote:
And, of course, the death count is spot-on accurate.
Nope. Probably higher.
Jun 7, 2020 13:17:12 #
I do agree that this a very dangerous virus but I really do think that it was and is being over hyped by the media. I also think we need to look closely at the causes of some of the deaths. Not all that are being attributed to Covid-19 actually did die from it. A lot are also from being denied acess to medical treatment due to certain governor's orders about limiting access to the medical care most people would get.
Jun 7, 2020 13:18:36 #
tomad wrote:
I was born in 1949. In my lifetime America has been in 5 "wars" that spanned a combined total of 55 years (Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan). The total number of Americans that lost their lives in that 55 years of war is 101,732. Covid-19 surpassed that in 3 months!
Relatively tame wars unless you go back one more war and add WWII.
Jun 7, 2020 13:20:18 #
Jun 7, 2020 13:21:08 #
tom hughes
Loc: Phila Pa
So did the swine flu in 09/10. Yet not one thing shut down, not even the Mexican border where it originated. 60.8 million Americans infected.
Jun 7, 2020 13:23:35 #
tomad
Loc: North Carolina
Fotoartist wrote:
Relatively tame wars unless you go back one more war and add WWII.
I'm sure the survivors plus the friends and families of those killed would strongly disagree...
Jun 7, 2020 13:28:40 #
tomad
Loc: North Carolina
tom hughes wrote:
So did the swine flu in 09/10. Yet not one thing shut down, not even the Mexican border where it originated. 60.8 million Americans infected.
True, but in a year that pandemic only killed 12,469 Americans; Covid-19 has taken nearly 9 times that many in just 3 months.
Jun 7, 2020 13:37:59 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Relatively tame wars unless you go back one more war and add WWII.
There is no such thing as a tame war; you'd know that if you'd been in one.
Jun 7, 2020 13:41:54 #
buldog216 wrote:
I do agree that this a very dangerous virus but I really do think that it was and is being over hyped by the media. I also think we need to look closely at the causes of some of the deaths. Not all that are being attributed to Covid-19 actually did die from it. A lot are also from being denied acess to medical treatment due to certain governor's orders about limiting access to the medical care most people would get.
"Covid-19 related" deaths are supposedly handled the same way "flu related deaths" are - the patient would still be alive if he hadn't become sick with the virus.
Jun 7, 2020 14:10:18 #
phlash46 wrote:
Nope. Probably higher.
Oh, Colorado went over their numbers and lowered it 20% - people who died from other causes who got listed as Covid. Some of them had Covid - but it wasn't what killed them - you don't suppose the federal money for Covid cases had anything to do with that do you? Naw! The bean counters would never "fib" to get more money, would they???
The good news is that in several places where it was bad before the US had it bad the doctors report it is mutating and the new versions are not nearly as bad as the original. This seems to be a consistent pattern with viruses.
It is still bad, the big thing is how fast it happened compared to a "normal" flu, but the stats for the 1918-19 Spanish Flu (675,000 in the US) make Covid look like the JV of killers. That one infected 1/3 of the world's population (est 500 million) and killed from 17 to 50 million around the world (a few "experts say it may have been 100-150 million for all waves 1917 to 1920), stats in most of the world sucked or didn't exist at all then so they aren't sure - but most put it at 17-50 million. And it didn't come from Spain, it came from Asia brought by troops and laborers brought to France by the big empires for the war and spread to the Germans etc along the front lines.
Spain wasn't in the war and reported on it in their newspapers while the Allies and Central Powers kept it secret to avoid letting each other know how bad things were for them. So Spain got the "honor" of having it named for them. The virus that caused the Spanish Flu is still with us today, but a lot milder. CDC says it is the H1N1
Jun 7, 2020 14:13:33 #
You are correct. The word supposedly is the problem. In the health field they are using the COD as Covid in order to protect themselves from legal action. My friends mother has been refused to enter the hospital for her cancer treatments due to the Governor's assinine executive orders about voluntary treatments. If she passes away the COD will be Covid 19 not cancer.
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