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May 15, 2020 12:00:21   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
bamfordr wrote:
It may be correct, but it only applies to continuous wear. As you note, they are excellent for avoiding problems in high traffic areas. The real challenge is to balance the scarcity of gloves, hand sanitizer, and surface cleaner. I wear them for market shopping. Drive to store. Put on gloves. Shop. Go back to car which I leave unlocked. Open trunk. Put in groceries. Close trunk. Remove and discard gloves. Drive home. That way I only have to wipe down the trunk handle on the car. Once I’m home, easy to wash hands and decontaminate suspect surfaces and packages. (Packaged non perishables stay in garage for 3 days to let any virus on plastic and paper surfaces expire).
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Got that? Great idea but you have to rewire your millions if not billions of neurons to follow this routine.

It's not as simple as following the instruction for shampooing your hair - wash, rinse, repeat.

It's boils down to transferring the virus from your hands (bare or gloved) to your face (through mucus membranes of nose, mouth, eyes). Gloved pair of hands is only good as long as it remained sterile i.e., you have not touched anything else before your touch your face or mask. Here's the question. On average, how many times in an hour do you touch your face? Do you remember each time you touch your face?

As a "new normal" while we wait for the vaccine, we will have to rewire our brain neurons to learn a new habit of every time washing or sanitizing our hands before touching our face and also before and after putting on our mask before going to places like grocery stores.

BTW, the answer to the above question: 23 times per hour. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25637115

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May 15, 2020 12:31:32   #
Madchemist Loc: Nesbit, MS
 
alliebess wrote:
When I had my virtual doctor's appointment last month, he recommended wearing gloves and a mask if I had to go out shopping (groceries and Rx). But I can see the rationale of not wearing the same gloves in more than one location; that could transfer germs from one store to another one.


You can always sanitize gloves between places.

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May 15, 2020 13:19:32   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The sun is a good "disinfector."

The UV rays are what provides the disinfection.

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May 15, 2020 17:31:02   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
dpullum wrote:
I limit my outside of the home to essential shopping at most two stores. New glove each.

Keen said: "I take epidemics/pandemics seriously...having worked in Military Public Health overseas. I will survive." I was an industrial divisional Health/Safety-Environmental Manager... I too take this Pandemic Seriously. I have the feeling tho if I became a registered Republican, then I would be immuned... at least that is what too many think... ridiculous indeed. Political antiscience is dangerous ... Very!

Some are anti inoculation people thinking "God will protect me." To them, I would point out that if they believe the [which edit] Bible god on a bad day sends plagues. We are at the mercy of the Administration suppressing facts and guidelines. I as a scientist, listen to Dr. Fouchie and away from the USA watch Dr John Campbell from Australia. Campbell is very, perhaps too through regarding the statistics of the worldwide infection and death rate.

A big take away from the literature is the protective benefits of Vitamin D. As Campbell points out the disproportionate death rate of the dark-skinned communities may have a relationship to vitamin D. Dark skin decreases the sunlight to vitamin D in body production. Smoking sets the stage for increased lung damage by COVID-19 disease.

Edgar Allen Poe [1842] in the Masque of The Red Death describes Trump's by-position-wealth feeling of security that he will not end up with COVID-19... "The story follows Prince Prospero's [man of wealth] attempts to avoid a dangerous plague, known as the Red Death, by hiding in his abbey [The West Wing]. The Masque of the Red Death had long devastated the country. No pestilence had ever been so fatal, or so hideous. Prospero’s [Trump's] indulgence in the seven deadly sins: Pride/Vanity – Pride is the excessive belief in one’s own abilities, similar to vanity,... Envy – It is unclear who the Prince might envy, but he sure is trying hard to <discredit Obama>. [Google Masque of the Red Death and also its Symbolism]
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Your hatred of President Trump has warped your mind. Get some help!

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May 15, 2020 18:03:48   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
AirWalter wrote:
Your hatred of President Trump has warped your mind. Get some help!


A perfect non sequitor as well as just stupid and nosensical interjection of politics into a non political discussion. Please go away or somehow refrain from commenting air water.

Unless i missed something here the discussion was about masks and gloves. Not politics.

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May 15, 2020 18:13:11   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
DocDav wrote:
A perfect non sequitor as well as just stupid and nosensical interjection of politics into a non political discussion. Please go away or somehow refrain from commenting air water.

Unless i missed something here the discussion was about masks and gloves. Not politics.


Yeah, you evidently did miss something. The following was in the persons post that I responded to; read it and look at all the insinuations towards Trump. That is what I responded to!

"Edgar Allen Poe [1842] in the Masque of The Red Death describes Trump's by-position-wealth feeling of security that he will not end up with COVID-19... "The story follows Prince Prospero's [man of wealth] attempts to avoid a dangerous plague, known as the Red Death, by hiding in his abbey [The West Wing]. The Masque of the Red Death had long devastated the country. No pestilence had ever been so fatal, or so hideous. Prospero’s [Trump's] indulgence in the seven deadly sins: Pride/Vanity – Pride is the excessive belief in one’s own abilities, similar to vanity,... Envy – It is unclear who the Prince might envy, but he sure is trying hard to <discredit Obama>. [Google Masque of the Red Death and also its Symbolism]"

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May 15, 2020 18:45:33   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
I dont see that but taking your word. That shit on either side was not what the conversation was about. I sincerely apologize. Although we will probably cancel out each others vote come November. Lol

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May 15, 2020 18:55:07   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
DocDav wrote:
I dont see that but taking your word. That shit on either side was not what the conversation was about. I sincerely apologize. Although we will probably cancel out each others vote come November. Lol


Don't take my word for it; his post is midway on page 1 and it isn't the first time he is on here bashing President Trump. I would admit that Trump isn't one I would normally vote for, but considering the two that were wanting the position he was the least of two evils. If you don't agree with that I can understand why you would vote for Biden. I sincerely hope you are a better Doctor than a judge of character.

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May 15, 2020 19:21:28   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
Lol. I am both. But thanks for the vote of confidence.

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May 15, 2020 19:33:12   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
DocDav wrote:
Lol. I am both. But thanks for the vote of confidence.


Both huh? I doubt it. Next time you want to jump in someone's shit because of what they say you might want to find out what made them say it first; that way you won't look so ignorant. By the way, I'm done with you and your kind.


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May 15, 2020 19:39:26   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
My kind. Well you're as hateful as it seemed. Have a great night.

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May 15, 2020 21:32:21   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
Wash your hands. I have been a nurse since 1976. I have seen some of the dirtiest gloves on people in the grocery store and a couple of cashiers. People wearing gloves just contaminate everything they touch.

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May 15, 2020 22:27:30   #
eskiles Loc: Palmer Alaska
 
Wearing gloves is no more unsanitary than your bare hands! And the likelihood you will get virus under your nails is reduced! Stop bashing people for wearing protection.

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May 15, 2020 23:32:33   #
cwp3420
 
Keen wrote:
I wear a different pair of latex gloves into each store, etc, and dispose of the worn gloves upon leaving. I ordered thousands of gloves months ago...when Trump was telling us that the virus was a hoax. I knew that he never tells the truth about anything, and that reality is always the opposite of whatever he says it is. So, I stocked up on masks, gloves, etc, early on. I also stay home mostly...going out just once, or twice, a month-at most-to get any TP, or other supplies I need. I need little, though, as I stocked up early. I am gainfully retired, so my SS, VA, etc, come in electronically, and go out the same. Most of what I buy is purchased online, and delivered by UPS, USPS, or FEDEX. I can do this forever. I live in a vote by mail state, so I can even do that from home. I am happy: reading ebooks, reading dead tree books, listening to audible books, streaming TV and movies, listening to digital music, having sex, and taking photos in and around my paid off home. There are countless small things to take macro photos of, several pets and a significant other to take portraits of, many birds, stray dogs, etc, in the distance, to shoot telephoto images of, and comical activities to shoot videos of. I live within my means. I wear gloves, and a mask, when opening delivery boxes on my porch. I discard exterior boxes while outside my home. I visit friends, and family, via phone calls, text messages, and emails. I take epidemics / pandemics seriously...having worked in Military Public Health overseas. I will survive. If you take this virus seriously, you can survive too. This thing is 56 times deadlier than The Flu, and Spring heat will not touch it. Neither will Summer heat. By Fall, the second wave will hit, and be worse than the first. In 1918, the second wave of The Flu was five times deadlier than the first wave. If you want to live, Social Distance.
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I wish I had your gift of prophesying the future, but alas I don’t.

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May 16, 2020 16:24:25   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
eskiles wrote:
Wearing gloves is no more unsanitary than your bare hands! And the likelihood you will get virus under your nails is reduced! Stop bashing people for wearing protection.

People wearing extra protection is probably extra. The experts recommend masks and washing hands on occasion.

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