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May 14, 2020 16:59:05   #
Allie
 
Tex-s wrote:
I'm not disputing facts nor that the President is a dolt, just that this copy paste post that 'shockingly' omits the fact Nancy Pelosi tried to pass a law to BLOCK Trump's actions you now pretend were taken too late despite evidence. If Trump was oblivious to obvious evidence and Pelosi defied Trump responding to obvious evidence.... is she rooting for the virus?

Repeat argument for Andrew Cuomo and his suggesting that Trump was a racist because he looked to curtail travel into our country.

Trump is not infallible, but by all accounts he was ahead of the curve in responding (relative to DEM politicians that now assail his actions), even if this panic mode reaction has been WAY overblown.
I'm not disputing facts nor that the President is ... (show quote)


Which law that Pelosi tried to pass???

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May 14, 2020 17:00:34   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
DennyT wrote:
Private citizens like you are the ones that drove companies to China - higher and higher wages and wanting everything cheap.

Could the government have stopped it? Sure if you want to live in a communist country that controls private industry ??

Trump made all his products in China and you bought his con hook line and sinker !!

He is a fraud. While the official
Maga hat is American made most the crap sold at his rallies is from China .

http://abcnews4.com/news/local/where-is-maga-merchandise-made
Private citizens like you are the ones that drove ... (show quote)



Private citizens like me buy AMERICAN as much as they can and that cost me a lot. Don't be a hypocrite like the rest of you guys, you know that if the business went overseas is because they want to make money, a pc. tv and other crap cost a 10$ to make it and resale for 400$ here. Nothing wrong in making money but just don't tell lies like your Komrades are doing.

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May 14, 2020 17:02:41   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
DennyT wrote:
Yesterday Dr Fauci warned about schools and business reopening- Further explaining to Rand Paul that he was a scientist and gave facts.
Today trump said “ unacceptable “ - what ever that means.


Jan. 20
The first human-to-human transmission was reported by a Chinese expert

Jan 22
Trump "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."

Jan 23
Chinese authorities implemented a strict nationwide travel ban, but allowed International flights.

Jan 24
Bill de Blasio “We urge all New Yorkers to continue to pursue their everyday activities and routines”

Jan 24
Dr. Anthony Fauci National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director said - “ Covid 19 It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously,"

Jan 24
Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu.

Jan 25
Good Morning America
"People should be more concerned right now with the flu in this country."

Jan 26
New York City’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives... those “who had recently traveled from Wuhan were not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.”

Jan 29
Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic"

Jan 30
The WHO declared a public health emergency of international concern

Feb 1
President Trump instilled China travel ban. New York City had its first suspected case of coronavirus



Feb 2
NYC health commissioner Bardot “As we gear up to celebrate the Lunar New Year in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of coronavirus.”
“The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I’m going to be there.”


Feb 4
China’s consul general in New York, Huang Ping, thanked the Chinese-American community and other concerned Americans on Tuesday for their aid in battling the coronavirus outbreak, and criticized what he described as “an overreaction by the American government in severely restricting travel to and from China.”

Feb 5: New York Times "Who says it's not safe to travel to China? The coronavirus travel ban is unjust and doesn't work anyway." NYC Health Commissioner Barbot on Twitter, “Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown... I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus.”

Feb 6 Bardot: “The important thing for New Yorkers to know is that in the city currently, their risk is low and our city preparedness is high...We’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life. . . If it were likely that it could be transmitted casually, we would be seeing a lot more cases.”

Feb 9: Chinatown in New York City held its annual Lunar New Year parade. Surgical masks were nearly absent from this parade. Councilman Mark D. Levine on Twitter, “In powerful show of defiance of coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual Lunar New Year parade. Chants of ‘Be Strong Wuhan!’ If you are staying away, you are missing out.”

Feb 12 The House Judiciary Committee on voted, 22-10, to terminate President Trump's expanded travel ban and rein in presidential authority to issue such travel restrictions.

Feb 13: New York City Council speaker Corey Johnson “It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City...There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual.” Bill de Blasio
"This should not stop you from going about your life. It should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat. I am going to do that today myself.”


Feb 24
Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease.

Feb 25
Dr. Anthony Fauci “You need to do nothing different than you’re already doing"

there were 15 cases of corona in the US. Total.


Feb 26
In a press conference, President Trump said the risk to Americans remains low.

Feb 28
A German team of doctors in Wuhan, China, “we discovered that shedding of potentially infectious virus may occur in persons who have no fever and no signs or only minor signs of infection.”

Feb 29
The Food and Drug Administration declared that other labs besides their own could develop their own coronavirus tests.
First American dies from coronavirus in Washington state.
shortly after the announcement of the Washington death, President Donald Trump held a White House news conference to announce that the United States is issuing more travel restrictions and warnings to help prevent spread of the virus. He also said he is meeting with pharmaceutical executives to discuss work toward a coronavirus vaccine.

March 1
Health officials announced the first confirmed case in New York

March 2
Governor Andrew Cuomo “In this situation, the facts defeat fear, because the reality is reassuring...The woman who has now tested positive, she’s at home, she’s not even in a hospital, so the perspective here is important. And the facts, once you know the facts, once you know the reality, it is reassuring, and we should relax, because that’s what’s dictated by the reality of the situation. I get the emotion, I understand; I understand the anxiety. I’m a native-born New Yorker, we live with anxiety. But the facts don’t back it up here. . . .

March 2
Bill DiBlasio “ I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives. Get out on the town despite Coronavirus

March 9
Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from

March 10
NYC Mayor DeBlasio encourages NYC to go out and enjoy the city

March 20
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster.

March 30
Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January.


You act like Trump was the only one talking. He took steps when other pols were telling folks to mingle.

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May 14, 2020 17:05:36   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
DennyT wrote:
Private citizens like you are the ones that drove companies to China - higher and higher wages and wanting everything cheap.

Could the government have stopped it? Sure if you want to live in a communist country that controls private industry ??

Trump made all his products in China and you bought his con hook line and sinker !!

He is a fraud. While the official
Maga hat is American made most the crap sold at his rallies is from China .

http://abcnews4.com/news/local/where-is-maga-merchandise-made
Private citizens like you are the ones that drove ... (show quote)




So what if everything else is made in china? you buy everything else you need from China I'm sure.

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May 14, 2020 17:07:17   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Tex-s wrote:
I feel, in some discussions, like I'm conversing with an addict. If you've ever had the misfortune of dealing with someone who is an addict, it is undeniable that every thought, word, action, lie, crime is devoted to the next 'use'. "Orange man bad" is not an argument of fact or of debate.

The OP dealt only with the current COVID response. If you will check, I did not suggest the President was infallible. I did not suggest he was even good. I suggested he was better, earlier than many of his critics. If it is your contention that Trump has done worse than the alternative, which I assume to be a Democrat President, it falls to you to cite a Democrat leader who was suggesting/demanding action before Trump took action.

Also, I'd love to read your scathing reproaches of Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau, Pedro Sanchez, and Sergio Matterella, as each of their countries has also experienced a wave of deaths in their countries. Or did Trump somehow cause these Spanish, German, Canadian, and Italian citizens to die?
I feel, in some discussions, like I'm conversing w... (show quote)


Trump is incapable of empathy. That makes him a Tyrant.

Trump is self-involved. That makes him incapable of seeing the best path to take.

Some of the actions he’s attempted that have done good he has self-sabotaged for unknown reasons.

Trump’s promises are unrealistic leaving the American people frustrated.

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May 14, 2020 17:08:09   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
hondo812 wrote:
Jan. 20
The first human-to-human transmission was reported by a Chinese expert

Jan 22
Trump "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."

Jan 23
Chinese authorities implemented a strict nationwide travel ban, but allowed International flights.

Jan 24
Bill de Blasio “We urge all New Yorkers to continue to pursue their everyday activities and routines”

Jan 24
Dr. Anthony Fauci National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director said - “ Covid 19 It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously,"

Jan 24
Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu.

Jan 25
Good Morning America
"People should be more concerned right now with the flu in this country."

Jan 26
New York City’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives... those “who had recently traveled from Wuhan were not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.”

Jan 29
Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic"

Jan 30
The WHO declared a public health emergency of international concern

Feb 1
President Trump instilled China travel ban. New York City had its first suspected case of coronavirus



Feb 2
NYC health commissioner Bardot “As we gear up to celebrate the Lunar New Year in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of coronavirus.”
“The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I’m going to be there.”


Feb 4
China’s consul general in New York, Huang Ping, thanked the Chinese-American community and other concerned Americans on Tuesday for their aid in battling the coronavirus outbreak, and criticized what he described as “an overreaction by the American government in severely restricting travel to and from China.”

Feb 5: New York Times "Who says it's not safe to travel to China? The coronavirus travel ban is unjust and doesn't work anyway." NYC Health Commissioner Barbot on Twitter, “Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown... I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus.”

Feb 6 Bardot: “The important thing for New Yorkers to know is that in the city currently, their risk is low and our city preparedness is high...We’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life. . . If it were likely that it could be transmitted casually, we would be seeing a lot more cases.”

Feb 9: Chinatown in New York City held its annual Lunar New Year parade. Surgical masks were nearly absent from this parade. Councilman Mark D. Levine on Twitter, “In powerful show of defiance of coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual Lunar New Year parade. Chants of ‘Be Strong Wuhan!’ If you are staying away, you are missing out.”

Feb 12 The House Judiciary Committee on voted, 22-10, to terminate President Trump's expanded travel ban and rein in presidential authority to issue such travel restrictions.

Feb 13: New York City Council speaker Corey Johnson “It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City...There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual.” Bill de Blasio
"This should not stop you from going about your life. It should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat. I am going to do that today myself.”


Feb 24
Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease.

Feb 25
Dr. Anthony Fauci “You need to do nothing different than you’re already doing"

there were 15 cases of corona in the US. Total.


Feb 26
In a press conference, President Trump said the risk to Americans remains low.

Feb 28
A German team of doctors in Wuhan, China, “we discovered that shedding of potentially infectious virus may occur in persons who have no fever and no signs or only minor signs of infection.”

Feb 29
The Food and Drug Administration declared that other labs besides their own could develop their own coronavirus tests.
First American dies from coronavirus in Washington state.
shortly after the announcement of the Washington death, President Donald Trump held a White House news conference to announce that the United States is issuing more travel restrictions and warnings to help prevent spread of the virus. He also said he is meeting with pharmaceutical executives to discuss work toward a coronavirus vaccine.

March 1
Health officials announced the first confirmed case in New York

March 2
Governor Andrew Cuomo “In this situation, the facts defeat fear, because the reality is reassuring...The woman who has now tested positive, she’s at home, she’s not even in a hospital, so the perspective here is important. And the facts, once you know the facts, once you know the reality, it is reassuring, and we should relax, because that’s what’s dictated by the reality of the situation. I get the emotion, I understand; I understand the anxiety. I’m a native-born New Yorker, we live with anxiety. But the facts don’t back it up here. . . .

March 2
Bill DiBlasio “ I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives. Get out on the town despite Coronavirus

March 9
Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from

March 10
NYC Mayor DeBlasio encourages NYC to go out and enjoy the city

March 20
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster.

March 30
Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January.


You act like Trump was the only one talking. He took steps when other pols were telling folks to mingle.
Jan. 20 br The first human-to-human transmission w... (show quote)




They have to think like this, they are desperately running out of BS to try to look good towards their dumb..masses

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May 14, 2020 17:14:03   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
hondo812 wrote:
Jan. 20
The first human-to-human transmission was reported by a Chinese expert

Jan 22
Trump "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."

Jan 23
Chinese authorities implemented a strict nationwide travel ban, but allowed International flights.

Jan 24
Bill de Blasio “We urge all New Yorkers to continue to pursue their everyday activities and routines”

Jan 24
Dr. Anthony Fauci National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director said - “ Covid 19 It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously,"

Jan 24
Joe Scarborough and wife Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu.

Jan 25
Good Morning America
"People should be more concerned right now with the flu in this country."

Jan 26
New York City’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives... those “who had recently traveled from Wuhan were not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.”

Jan 29
Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic"

Jan 30
The WHO declared a public health emergency of international concern

Feb 1
President Trump instilled China travel ban. New York City had its first suspected case of coronavirus



Feb 2
NYC health commissioner Bardot “As we gear up to celebrate the Lunar New Year in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of coronavirus.”
“The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I’m going to be there.”


Feb 4
China’s consul general in New York, Huang Ping, thanked the Chinese-American community and other concerned Americans on Tuesday for their aid in battling the coronavirus outbreak, and criticized what he described as “an overreaction by the American government in severely restricting travel to and from China.”

Feb 5: New York Times "Who says it's not safe to travel to China? The coronavirus travel ban is unjust and doesn't work anyway." NYC Health Commissioner Barbot on Twitter, “Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown... I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus.”

Feb 6 Bardot: “The important thing for New Yorkers to know is that in the city currently, their risk is low and our city preparedness is high...We’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life. . . If it were likely that it could be transmitted casually, we would be seeing a lot more cases.”

Feb 9: Chinatown in New York City held its annual Lunar New Year parade. Surgical masks were nearly absent from this parade. Councilman Mark D. Levine on Twitter, “In powerful show of defiance of coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual Lunar New Year parade. Chants of ‘Be Strong Wuhan!’ If you are staying away, you are missing out.”

Feb 12 The House Judiciary Committee on voted, 22-10, to terminate President Trump's expanded travel ban and rein in presidential authority to issue such travel restrictions.

Feb 13: New York City Council speaker Corey Johnson “It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City...There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual.” Bill de Blasio
"This should not stop you from going about your life. It should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat. I am going to do that today myself.”


Feb 24
Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease.

Feb 25
Dr. Anthony Fauci “You need to do nothing different than you’re already doing"

there were 15 cases of corona in the US. Total.


Feb 26
In a press conference, President Trump said the risk to Americans remains low.

Feb 28
A German team of doctors in Wuhan, China, “we discovered that shedding of potentially infectious virus may occur in persons who have no fever and no signs or only minor signs of infection.”

Feb 29
The Food and Drug Administration declared that other labs besides their own could develop their own coronavirus tests.
First American dies from coronavirus in Washington state.
shortly after the announcement of the Washington death, President Donald Trump held a White House news conference to announce that the United States is issuing more travel restrictions and warnings to help prevent spread of the virus. He also said he is meeting with pharmaceutical executives to discuss work toward a coronavirus vaccine.

March 1
Health officials announced the first confirmed case in New York

March 2
Governor Andrew Cuomo “In this situation, the facts defeat fear, because the reality is reassuring...The woman who has now tested positive, she’s at home, she’s not even in a hospital, so the perspective here is important. And the facts, once you know the facts, once you know the reality, it is reassuring, and we should relax, because that’s what’s dictated by the reality of the situation. I get the emotion, I understand; I understand the anxiety. I’m a native-born New Yorker, we live with anxiety. But the facts don’t back it up here. . . .

March 2
Bill DiBlasio “ I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives. Get out on the town despite Coronavirus

March 9
Bernie Sanders said he would NOT, I repeat he said he would NOT shut down travel from

March 10
NYC Mayor DeBlasio encourages NYC to go out and enjoy the city

March 20
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope. Now it is being sought after to fight the disease and is being tested as helping patients recover faster.

March 30
Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January.


You act like Trump was the only one talking. He took steps when other pols were telling folks to mingle.
Jan. 20 br The first human-to-human transmission w... (show quote)


Any steps taken have been proven to be inadequate.

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May 14, 2020 17:27:57   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
foodie65 wrote:
Looks like this list needs to be brought up to date


No he is playing with numbers like he always does . The testing for example. He brag about total number of test but always leaves out the America is far far from the top in per capita testing .

Manufacturing jobs sure but the net is still a loss .

Job created z... again probably a good number but less than the last administration did in the last three years

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May 14, 2020 17:47:09   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
RixPix wrote:
Any steps taken have been proven to be inadequate.


None of those people are president, none made a vow to protect Americans .

Bottom line trump was responsible and failed !!!

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May 14, 2020 17:56:58   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
mwalsh wrote:
No you are not.

You are cherry-picking facts and acting like it is a fair representation of what has happened.


You are purposely leaving out ALL the facts that throw any positive light on Trump, thus only creating spin.

I find Trump disgusting, but your grossly unbalanced presentation of "facts" is even more disgusting than Trump himself.


Thank you. He fails to understand that lying by omission is still lying.

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May 14, 2020 17:57:54   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
RixPix wrote:
Any steps taken have been proven to be inadequate.

And WTF would you have done any better?

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May 14, 2020 17:59:19   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
DennyT wrote:
Job created z... again probably a good number but less than the last administration did in the last three years

And I bet you have lots of accurate, truthful documentation to support this?

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May 14, 2020 18:10:15   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
skylane5sp wrote:
Thank you. He fails to understand that lying by omission is still lying.


The Trumpeters have often posted lists of Trump's "accomplishments" toward staving off this pandemic, as has been done in this thread. Yet NOT ONE of those posts has included the shortcomings/failures that have been pointed out by those who do not think Trump's responses/actions have been adequate.

That would be lying by omission, would it not?

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May 14, 2020 20:26:38   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
skylane5sp wrote:
And WTF would you have done any better?


I’m not an expert so I guess I’m on equal footing with Trump. Since I’m not an expert I would defer to the experts without reservation or revision. That is what someone who is not an expert would do.

Now that you understand what a non expert would do, why do you listen to and agree with someone who is not an expert that pretends to know the best path forward and that path he is pushing is diametrically opposed to thAt of the know and respected experts. In January I posted that this virus was like a sci-fi movie at the beginning. I remember reports of the virus in December.

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May 14, 2020 22:05:07   #
cwp3420
 
foodie65 wrote:
continue to kiss his ass as long as he stays out of jail.
and he does make a big effort to piss off people; in fact, that's all he does well.


He does. You and all the other libs are constantly pissed off. That always makes my day hearing how pissed you are.

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