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Analytic article on covid19
May 12, 2020 13:24:20 #
crooner
Loc: Portland, OR
We all have to make decisions based on information we can't necessarily be certain is factual. Therefore the only way to make an informed decision is to read both sides of an argument and make a decision based on which side seems most reasonable to you. That means reading the New York Times and National Review, reading The Washington Post and the Washington Examiner, listening to Rachel Maddow and Rush Limbaugh. Both sides are available - one side is far more easily available.
May 12, 2020 13:38:56 #
May 12, 2020 13:40:46 #
BigDen wrote:
When even the experts have differing opinions, I am not sure how you determine the difference between “real facts” and “alternate facts.” I guess it is like preferring “truth over facts.” Depends on what your “truth” is.
Absolutely....
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May 12, 2020 13:51:44 #
I had read the article before, and appreciate the analytical process especially how a sneeze or cough can infect a whole room, kind of makes the 6 feet apart rule seem ridiculous...The information on this Virus has been a travesty from the start, don't wear masks now wear masks, it is not a problem, we have things totally under control, we must lock down and now with numbers still going up we must open up...if I ran a business and these people worked for me, I would fire the President, Congress, Dr. Fauci, the CDC, NIH, WHO, China and other Foreign Governments for not being prepared for a Global Pandemic and then doing a terrible job in response to it...
May 12, 2020 13:58:07 #
rehess wrote:
I have not seen any instructions which required that someone stay indoors.
Indoors has nothing to do with 'social distancing'.
My wife and I will be working in the garden outdoors.
I often take a solitary walk outdoors.
My 93 year old Mother-in-Law has a balcony where can sit outdoors - my Sister-in-law has even waved at her up there.
Indoors has nothing to do with 'social distancing'.
My wife and I will be working in the garden outdoors.
I often take a solitary walk outdoors.
My 93 year old Mother-in-Law has a balcony where can sit outdoors - my Sister-in-law has even waved at her up there.
Yes, but take NYC as an example. A 5-6 story complex has 800 residents that have a two lane road out front, 9 feet to the next building laterally, and a 16 foot wide alley behind. These folks are indoors. The same population density that gives the coasts such an electoral pull also means easier transmission of disease in crowds and means quarantine has a big effect on the ability to go outside.
May 12, 2020 14:00:15 #
John Matthews
Loc: Wasilla, Alaska
3. You can go out and live your life to the fullest accepting the risks just like our brave ancestors did.
You need to read some history. Our various brave European ancestors (and I am sure Asian/Africain/etc but I am not up on that history) at different times did everything within their science/religion to combat pandemics from closing of their towns to outsiders and shutting down markets to slaughtering the local Jewish population and get this, social isolation and wearing masks!
Plague spawned the flagerent movement, revolution, Labor movements etc.
There is at least one vaccine developed for a RNA virus every year (flu).
You need to read some history. Our various brave European ancestors (and I am sure Asian/Africain/etc but I am not up on that history) at different times did everything within their science/religion to combat pandemics from closing of their towns to outsiders and shutting down markets to slaughtering the local Jewish population and get this, social isolation and wearing masks!
Plague spawned the flagerent movement, revolution, Labor movements etc.
There is at least one vaccine developed for a RNA virus every year (flu).
May 12, 2020 14:00:36 #
rehess wrote:
This is not a real test of her theories.
Dr. Mikovitz is an anti-vaxer - that alone disqualifies her as an "expert".
But some people seem determined to buy these off-the-wall theories.
Dr. Mikovitz is an anti-vaxer - that alone disqualifies her as an "expert".
But some people seem determined to buy these off-the-wall theories.
I've missed any info on her being strictly anti-vax. All I've seen is that she is anti-mandated-vax. I'll admit I've not researched her deeply. Just watched the video and the feeble media attempts to assail HER rather than her message on COVID transmission and the natural human immune system.
Also, if it requires a clinical 'test' to take a stance, there should be no public action at all for COVID. There was no trial as to the efficacy of quarantining the healthy.....
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May 12, 2020 14:02:09 #
It is highly probable for greater truth to be found in the analysis of all independent perspectives, particularly those that are not caught up in the Hegelian Dialectic, such as those to whom you refer. Two highly vocal sources of lies do not synthesize or congeal into truth.
May 12, 2020 14:16:16 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
sb wrote:
Facts are facts - there are not different sets of facts, no matter how much this administration wants to think so. Opinions are opinions - HOPEFULLY based on an individual's interpretation of the facts - but sometimes opinions come from fools and dullards.... or "dotards".
Is that an "opinion" or a "fact"?
May 12, 2020 14:16:42 #
Tex-s wrote:
Yes, but take NYC as an example. A 5-6 story complex has 800 residents that have a two lane road out front, 9 feet to the next building laterally, and a 16 foot wide alley behind. These folks are indoors. The same population density that gives the coasts such an electoral pull also means easier transmission of disease in crowds and means quarantine has a big effect on the ability to go outside.
Be careful here. My in-laws lived in NYC - in Brooklyn. Their building originally housed four families, which they owned the right half of; 1978 when I first visited there, they no longer rented out the upper apartment. Someone who lived in their neighborhood easily could go for a walk. Queens is more so, and Staten Island even more so. From reports, even those living the bigger buildings in Manhattan could go for a walk. So, yes the city is more crowded that we are out here - but most can still get outside if they do it one at a time for awhile.
May 12, 2020 15:15:39 #
fetzler: If only going out and taking risks was of risk to the guy going out taking his chances. That would be great. But, most of the nutjobs out there do not understand the risk is to others, as well as themselves. As Dr. Fauci says, this reopening, done recklessly and prematurely is a death sentence for many people. Many of the people going out fail to wear masks, social distance themselves and don’t care if they kill other people.
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May 12, 2020 15:20:48 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
sb wrote:
Facts are facts - there are not different sets of facts, no matter how much this administration wants to think so. Opinions are opinions - HOPEFULLY based on an individual's interpretation of the facts - but sometimes opinions come from fools and dullards.... or "dotards".
And this paper is based on years of research in the field of epidemiology and facts that are specific to Covid-19. It contains information that can be used to minimize the expectation of being infected. Outright refusal to read it is a sign of ignorance.
May 12, 2020 15:27:06 #
markngolf wrote:
Difficult to respond to your comment. Is it a foreign language or just lacking grammar? It's a wonder you have actually read the NYTimes. I doubt it.
Mark
Mark
NYT is no longer the paper of record. It lost it's credibility years ago. Even if an article is written there, I would never see it. No I don't have a degree in grammar. But the elite snobs do, and therefore dismiss everyone else without.
May 12, 2020 15:42:48 #
May 12, 2020 15:47:09 #
1Feathercrest wrote:
Many years ago (65 or so) I seemed to be the only college student who subscribed to the NYTimes. It has become a Leftist Rag now and I deign to pollute my mind with their socialist/communist, indoctrinating drivel.
I’m with you.👍
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