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GAS. Move to fx D850 or mirrorless Z7
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May 8, 2020 16:36:59   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
I have a D850 and D800Es. That said, I'd like to suggest that you rent a Z7 for a week and get a first-hand feel for using, shooting, etc. and look at the results you get. It will take a few days to go from your cameras to a mirrorless camera. It won't feel as 'comfortable' as what you are accustomed to doing, camera handling, shooting. But, give it a week. Then you can personally compare your experience with the Z7 and a D850.

I am completely happy with my D850 photo-computer. Having the ability to control almost every aspect of my pictures other than choice of subject is freedom, exploration and discovery. If something doesn't turn out as expected, I probably could have changed a setting for the camera that would have helped me. Can't image having another camera.

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May 8, 2020 20:14:30   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Paul Diamond wrote:
I have a D850 and D800Es. That said, I'd like to suggest that you rent a Z7 for a week and get a first-hand feel for using, shooting, etc. and look at the results you get. It will take a few days to go from your cameras to a mirrorless camera. It won't feel as 'comfortable' as what you are accustomed to doing, camera handling, shooting. But, give it a week. Then you can personally compare your experience with the Z7 and a D850.

I am completely happy with my D850 photo-computer. Having the ability to control almost every aspect of my pictures other than choice of subject is freedom, exploration and discovery. If something doesn't turn out as expected, I probably could have changed a setting for the camera that would have helped me. Can't image having another camera.
I have a D850 and D800Es. That said, I'd like to ... (show quote)


You don’t get to choose what you shoot?

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May 8, 2020 20:25:48   #
tennis2618
 
I travel lots with Lindblad-National Geographic, often on 2-3 week trips to wonderful spots for birds, animals and landscapes. I have a D500, but my workhorse is the D850. For what it is work I've traveled for years with aseveral of the Nat Geo photographers and last March 4 out of 5 of them had dropped their Canons for various mirrorless cameras. Of course they got great pricing like 70% discounts, but they all loved the mirrorless due to weight reduction and the lenses they got with them. I'm not changing yet, but probably will as the next generation mirrorless comes out. I do have a Sony ARii which takes wonderful pictures but everything is different in shooting technique except manual focusing so I find it difficult to have both systems on the same trip. So until/unless the mirrorless becomes more like shooting with a DSLR I'm probably too old to change. By the way several friends of mine in my photography club dropped their Nikons for Fuji mirrorless because they don't have the cumbersome electronics that others have.

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May 8, 2020 20:34:12   #
Juy Loc: Delaware
 
Chromodynamics6 wrote:
Every time I think I want a newer or better camera I rent what I am thinking of buying. Each time I've done this I come to the same conclusion, I haven't mastered what I have and newer gear won't change much.



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May 8, 2020 21:04:23   #
1grumpybear
 
Juy wrote:
Got gas. Actually I have been wanting a full frame. Been using DX format shoot primarily wildlife/nature with d7000 and last year half D500. Love my 500 but have the desire to go FX.
So should I spring for D850 or the Z7. Pros -cons of each . I have mix of lens between the two formats. Use Tamron 150-600 G2, Nikon 400 2.8 ais, Tamron 15-30, DX 85 macro. N
Any new lens would be fx .


I own both the D5 and D850. I use the D5 for sports and fast action and the D850 for everything else. Can not say enough good things about both cameras. But I do have a D6 on order and hope to get it this month. About a year ago Jim a friend of mine who owns both a D5 and a D810 ordered the Z7 and shot it for about two weeks and sent it back. Don't remember his dislikes but he considered the Z7 was not an upgrade for him. Now when it comes to lens I only buy PRO FX lens and the reason is back in 2002 I bought a Nikon D100 I was very fortunate in the salesman that was selling me the camera. He highly recommended that I buy pro FX lens for the DX camera, I did and have never regretted that decision. With a pro lens you will always get the best picture the body can deliver it does not work the other way. If you have less than top end lens you will not be getting the best picture the body can deliver. Also I am still buying from the same salesman at Tempe Camera.

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May 8, 2020 21:42:15   #
rossk Loc: Melbourne, Australia
 
I own both cameras and love them both. I think the D850 has a slight edge over the Z7 which is a little slower to fire up. The FTZ adapter enables me to use top Nikkor lenses on the Z7 with no concerns. The kit 24-70/4S lens works beautifully on the Z7. Being a smaller camera the Z7 is a great choice for travel (when it will be allowed again!!!)

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May 8, 2020 21:59:23   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Z8 is coming out soon. Perhaps wait. I bought a refurbed D850 and havent looked back. Love it. Saved a boat load of cash too.

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May 8, 2020 22:44:51   #
tomcat
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Reason 6:

Has anyone ever seen a mirrorless camera on the road to failure?


Nope, but I have seen quite a few folks with small apertures and amateur DSLR cameras failing in low light where the ISO is above 10000. Some of them even use a flash........

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May 9, 2020 07:35:35   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You don’t get to choose what you shoot?


I already chose when Z cameras didn't even exist. I don't have experience with the Z7 and did not express an opinion. I offered a suggestion that he rent a Z7 for a week and make up his own mind instead of listening to biased opinions from people who have no direct experience with both cameras.

I do choose, for my personal shooting, whether to use a D800E (36MP) or my D850 (45.6MP). And, sometimes I carry both.

So, why did you waste time and space with your [quote] - And your point? Are you helping or trying to argue about something trivial?

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May 9, 2020 08:23:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Reason 7:

Imagine your epitaph: He never owned a mirrorless camera

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May 9, 2020 08:35:20   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Reason 7:

Imagine your epitaph: He never owned a mirrorless camera


Something to be proud of, I think.

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May 9, 2020 11:28:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Paul Diamond wrote:
I already chose when Z cameras didn't even exist. I don't have experience with the Z7 and did not express an opinion. I offered a suggestion that he rent a Z7 for a week and make up his own mind instead of listening to biased opinions from people who have no direct experience with both cameras.

I do choose, for my personal shooting, whether to use a D800E (36MP) or my D850 (45.6MP). And, sometimes I carry both.

So, why did you waste time and space with your quote - And your point? Are you helping or trying to argue about something trivial?
I already chose when Z cameras didn't even exist. ... (show quote)


The following sentence just wasn’t too clear.
“ Having the ability to control almost every aspect of my pictures other than choice of subject is freedom, exploration and discovery.”

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May 9, 2020 11:31:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Something to be proud of, I think.


And why would that be something to be proud of?

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May 9, 2020 13:35:06   #
Juy Loc: Delaware
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Reason 7:

Imagine your epitaph: He never owned a mirrorless camera



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May 9, 2020 13:42:31   #
Juy Loc: Delaware
 
Thank you to all for your feedback.i'm still uncertain but leaning to the d850.

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