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Apr 26, 2020 09:31:44   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
If he’s a novice with DSLR's, then any camera/lens combo would be a good starting point. As a novice he shouldn’t be expecting perfection from his equipment.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:47:54   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Thank you so much for your kind words! I think he will be happy with it! He’s only had a cell phone to take photos with and that phone is certainly not one that is taking super great photos! He’s already studying! He’s so excited! This is his set up! I’m so excited to give it to him!

Architect1776 wrote:
That is a wonderful gift.
with no IS there is no problem, as you said he can use a bean bag (Turn off motor) and get great shots. Remember until recently IS never existed. People actually took wonderful shots with out IS.
Higher shutter speeds with a bit higher ISO will overcome a lot.
Disregard the rich naysayers.
You have a wonderful gift for your friend that many people would love to have and will take wonderful photos if your friend does their part with composition etc. and good camera handling practices.
Have the friend join UHH and send some photos with that wonderful new rig.
That is a wonderful gift. br with no IS there is ... (show quote)



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Apr 26, 2020 09:51:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Sark17 wrote:
Thank you so much for your kind words! I think he will be happy with it! He’s only had a cell phone to take photos with and that phone is certainly not one that is taking super great photos! He’s already studying! He’s so excited! This is his set up! I’m so excited to give it to him!


Looks like a great rig.
You are a real friend.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:52:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
saparoo wrote:
We are also neighbors...I'm in Cumming on Lake Lanier. I have an old tripod that I will donate, no shipping involved!!!


You seem wonderful for doing this.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:54:23   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
It's the lenses that have stabilization in the Canon line. Short of a lens with stabilization, he will need a stable tripod and good ones aren't cheap...Bean bags can help but not so much if the truck's engine is running...


This is a wonderful gift from as far as I can see.

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Apr 26, 2020 09:59:19   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
If he has rock steady hands he wont need stabilization. If he can't get out of the truck a monopod is easy to use inside the truck, and a good one is way less expensive than a good tripod. The set up will serve him well.

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Apr 26, 2020 10:05:08   #
JasonC Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Great looking shot.


Thank you!

Jason

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Apr 26, 2020 10:21:17   #
d3200prime
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


The gear you are so generously providing will be just fine. The sandbags and engine off are fine. The issue is his lack of knowledge and experience about photography using a DSLR but I can almost guarantee if he learns how to handle this equipment he will put the phone away. Maybe you should suggest he shoot in auto mode initially until he can learn to shoot in manual? He is blessed to have a friend like you.

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Apr 26, 2020 10:24:53   #
rta1023 Loc: Wyckoff, NJ
 
First off I just want to say that this is a wonderful thing you're doing.

I have this lens and it is quite heavy. It can be used handheld but I found that a monopod also works well for me. It's more flexible than a tripod and, as long as he can turn the engine off, it will provide a good amount of support while in vehicle.

Regarding the lack of OS/IBIS/VC, higher shutter speeds can also compensate and, in good light, I really don't think it should be a problem...as long as he practices.

One other suggestion, since you were able to obtain the lens for free, maybe consider throwing in an entry level 70-300. I know it overlaps the big lens but it may prove easier to use when 500mm (750mm equiv) isn't needed...You can get one really cheaply (around $100) and it's something he can practice with.

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Apr 26, 2020 10:34:04   #
CWGordon
 
I think everyone here really appreciates what you are doing. I know I do. I think what you have will do fine. I notice when I am in other countries their equipment, whether photographic or automotive is valued long after we have moved on to “newer and better” stuff. My guide in Kenya knew to turn motor off when I was shooting. A simple mention to your friend is likely all the reminder he will need.
In Ireland, a few years ago, while bicycling my buddy and I came across a huge (100 more or less) of folks riding antique motorcycles. We stopped to talk with them. I said how great I thought it was that they actually rode/used their beautifully restored machines. A few of them looked at me like I had three eye balls. One or two of the guys proceeded to tell me these were their everyday machines, this was just an ordinary group/club ride. Americans would have put these classics in a showroom and dusted them once or twice a year.

My point is, your friend will have a treasure and will treasure it even more because he received it through your kindness and true friendship. Thanks for your wonderful gift to him and all of us.

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Apr 26, 2020 10:38:59   #
ELNikkor
 
I can see the dilemma: send him free a big lens without stabilization with an old, but free, camera, or look around for a more ideal system for him. My gut says; go with the the first choice. the woman gave that lens (which is $2k new!), with the intent that it be sent to your friend. It would be disingenuous to her not to. Send him the T2 to go with it. Remember, we did an awful lot of great photos with film before there was ever image stabilization. My guess is, your friend will get amazing photos with that system, and, if he ever needs to modify his kit, he'll figure that out on his own.

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Apr 26, 2020 11:11:15   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a friend that lives in Africa and is a safari guide. He has tons of opportunity to take incredible photos, but has never had a “real camera”, only his phone.

I have an old Canon Rebel T2i I plan to give him, and was looking for a decent lens to pair it with. I found the Sigma 50-500, (I wanted him to have ONE lens with as much range as possible), it’s the Sigma Ex 50-500mm 4-6.3 APO lens for Canon (NOT OS).

After talking with the amazing woman selling it, and telling her why I wanted it, she ended up just giving it to me which was so awesome and generous!!

My question: the camera doesn’t have OS, the lens doesn’t have OS, is this THAT much of an issue? He will likely use bean bags on the roof of his truck. Or, if it IS an issue, what is the most affordable canon camera body that does have OS? I was looking at the T5 and T7, but I don’t know much about them.

I just want to give him a solid set up because - 1) he’s never had one 2) he will likely not have another one for a long time and 3) he won’t have send back/repair options.

What do you think? My budget for this is not great, so I’m not looking for the newest, nicest, just something that’s good and has what he needs :)

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello! I’m looking for some advice. I have a frien... (show quote)


Excellent gesture. If he is of stout build, he will have no problems with the Bigma/Canon combo (they are big/heavy), and with good technique will get decent images from the combo. It is a great starting point! In good light he should be fine w/o OS.

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Apr 26, 2020 11:35:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
ELNikkor wrote:
I can see the dilemma: send him free a big lens without stabilization with an old, but free, camera, or look around for a more ideal system for him. My gut says; go with the the first choice. the woman gave that lens (which is $2k new!), with the intent that it be sent to your friend. It would be disingenuous to her not to. Send him the T2 to go with it. Remember, we did an awful lot of great photos with film before there was ever image stabilization. My guess is, your friend will get amazing photos with that system, and, if he ever needs to modify his kit, he'll figure that out on his own.
I can see the dilemma: send him free a big lens wi... (show quote)


Nice thing is the Canon EOS system is infinitely up-gradable with no loss of use.
New R cameras have IBIS now. And this lens will work just fine with those cameras so IS is NOT an issue anymore.
So the great thing is the system can be upgraded with new cameras if desired and ALL those lenses will be just fine. Only Canon.

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Apr 26, 2020 11:45:07   #
Larelain Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
Sark17 wrote:
I guess a better way to ask is: is there a camera body that costs less than $250 (used is fine) that can compensate for a lens without OS?


I have lived in Africa for a number of years and have spent time in a number of game parks. Also in our family there are a number of game scouts. your friend has an advantage that we do not in that he knows the animals and there behavior. He is getting good photos with a phone camera he will get great pictures with what you give him. Start from there.

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Apr 26, 2020 11:49:22   #
Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana
 
Sark17 wrote:
Got ‘em! And car charger for batteries so converter not necessary (though I’m bringing him a converter too)!


or a set of batteries and a charger like those sold by Wasabi, where the included charger is capable of being charged in a vehicle and comes with a 12 v cord.

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