Governor of GA to begin opening businesses - What will you do? (Page 14): I hate to say this, but most of that stuff we quit manufacturing in the U.S. years ago. It is easy to issue an...

btbg

Paul Diamond wrote:

I hear, very clearly, that the President says he h... (show quote)

I hate to say this, but most of that stuff we quit manufacturing in the U.S. years ago. It is easy to issue an order to ramp up production of PPE, but if the manufacturing base isn't tooled up to make the products it isn't going to happen right away.

As far as testing, I can't speak to people in cities, but where I live it takes approximately five days to get the result of a test. That won't do anything to keep people safe. So far there have been 27 tests in our county. One positive, 15 negative and 11 waiting for results.

Ramp up testing and the labs will be even more overwhelmed and it will take longer to get accurate results. It is never as simple as snap your fingers and the problems go away.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

btbg wrote:

I wish what you say here were true, but it isn't. ... (show quote)

I do emphasize with you even though I don’t understand it. I had planned to work until I was 70, but forced to retire at 65 because of circumstances I’d rather not go into. In my case, a year later I ended up running the last few years of my elderly Mother’s life, and now I am finishing ‘Executor’ work. In my case, my retiring “early” freed up time to aid her; I pray you can find something to fill your unexpected time also.

usken65

It’s fine for everyone on a pension and collecting social security to stay home. But what about everyone who has to work to feed their families and kep them living indoors. If you’re in the high risk group stay quarantined and shut up. It’s simple really people have to work. Nothing guarantees you cradle to the grave safety. If you want to live in fear the rest of your life I feel sorry for you.

btbg

rehess wrote:

I do emphasize with you even though I don’t understand it. I had planned to work until I was 70, but forced to retire at 65 because of circumstances I’d rather not go into. In my case, a year later I ended up running the last few years of my elderly Mother’s life, and now I am finishing ‘Executor’ work. In my case, my retiring “early” freed up time to aid her; I pray you can find something to fill your unexpected time also.

I appreciate that. I have plenty to do. The problem is that now I may not have the money to do it. One of my daughters is married to a soldier. For the first time in the last 12 years they are close enough to visit, but with the travel restrictions we can't. We don't know how much longer they are going to be in driving distance, but it won't be more than nine months tops.

We were also planning on traveling to see our other daughter and her kids. May or may not be able to scrape together the money now. It's pretty expensive to fly to Alaska.

A month before I got laid off we purchased a bunch of stuff to remodel our house, so I have been working on that now. Bad timing spending all that money, but had no way to know that I would lose my job. The remodel should be done in early May and then I still have work to do on my mom's house.

I/m sorry about your mom. My wife had to take care of both her parents when they got dementia and was also the executor of their estate. Lots of work and not much fun.

CWGordon

No one wants your children to lose their jobs or there insurance. That is very sad. However, I wonder if you would feel differently if your children got COVID and one only got sick, but the other one died. Which would you feel was worse? Job or death is the choice here. Maybe your children and you are willing to take a gamble and choose work. What about all the other people working at her place of employ? Sometimes we really need to look beyond our personal needs and wants. Maybe we need to really think about how we would feel if that gamble turned out to be the virus for both offspring. Would you feel at all guilty for pushing your position and them ending up with the negative consequences that might happen? What if the one died and the other brought the disease home to you or their children? What if they gave it to you and others at the funeral? I think majority has to rule on this one.
That said, I am truly sorry for all the folks and family that have or will lose jobs because of this. My wife may lose hers. I would hate that, as do you, but also worry that she might die if she keeps working. Very emotional issue for me. Yours is worse in that it has already happened. I do feel the sincerity of your concern. I just don’t readily see other options than carrying on a few more weeks. Hopefully, your daughters will find better situations in the next few weeks. Please except my sadness as real and accept that I really hate the situation we face today.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

JohnSwanda wrote:

You said it was the democratic governors that are behind the virus rules. Most republican states have the same rules.

You said I said Republican.
Do not deflect and lie.
Typical lib hater, nothing but lies.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Architect1776 wrote:

You said I said Republican.
Do not deflect and lie.
Typical lib hater, nothing but lies.

You said the Democratic governors were responsible for the virus rules. That excludes the Republican governors. Just ordinary logic.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

JohnSwanda wrote:

You said the Democratic governors were responsible for the virus rules. That excludes the Republican governors. Just ordinary logic.

I do understand Michigan’s “motorboat” rules now; most of them are stored on land in the Winter - when this thing began - and their Governor was getting complaints from their DNR folk about crowds congregating around boat launches. Policing boat launches is a problem, but simply not allowing people to use one if they did get it in the water seemed simple.

Once you eliminate that, Michigan’s rules are similar to what I am living under in Indiana; we did purchase paint to repaint the kitchen, but I believe Lowe’s can provide curbside delivery anywhere. The point is that there is little difference between what was announced by their Democrat Governor and our Republican Governor.

LoStrunzo

I suggest photos be taken of the protesters & others breaking the rules. Post them in ERs, with the notation, "last in line."

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

JohnSwanda wrote:

You said the Democratic governors were responsible for the virus rules. That excludes the Republican governors. Just ordinary logic.

You said I said.
I said conservative. Not all Republican governors are conservative. Very careful reading and you wold possibly comprehend.
Oh yes now report me now because I called you out.

Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA

Kmgw9v wrote:

I knew a young man who developed high blood pressure. Upon his doctor’s advice he reluctantly began taking daily blood pressure medication.
Son of a gun, his blood pressure stabilized at a normal level. So, he thinks, my blood pressure is now normal, I am a healthy young man—I shouldn’t have to take medication any more.
He stopped taking the medication, and lived a healthy life from that point forward.

Works for the governor of Georgia.

Sadly, that was the case of my brother. After a relatively few months he had a stroke. :( High blood pressure, the silent killer.

BTW... in regard to this thread, the medical professionals I am talking to are saying the second wave that may come in the fall/winter months could be far more devastating than the first round. I truly believe people congregating in close quarters (homes) will actually compound the issue in winter (Christmas time). We saw this in the 1997 flu season when every hospital was packed and the 9-1-1 system in Los Angeles was maxed out for flu like symptoms. The ride ain't over yet.

A house down the street from one of my co-workers has 15 people living in it. Over the course of 1 week EMS responded to that house and transported 5 people with flu like symptons (COVID19). These were younger people!

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Jim Eads wrote:

Sadly, that was the case of my brother. After a re... (show quote)

Your second wave is a complete lie.
Dr. Fauci personally reiterated this morning that this is a complete lie and is a fabrication of the DNC and fake news. There will be a second wave, possibly, but NOT anywhere near what is happening now.
I personally listened to him this morning refute the fake news lies.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Jim Eads wrote:

Sadly, that was the case of my brother. After a re... (show quote)

That one of the reasons we need better testing soon!
We need to fix "little" Covid-19 problems before they become bad ones.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Architect1776 wrote:

Your second wave is a complete lie.
Dr. Fauci personally reiterated this morning that this is a complete lie and is a fabrication of the DNC and fake news. There will be a second wave, possibly, but NOT anywhere near what is happening now.
I personally listened to him this morning refute the fake news lies.

Where did you hear this? I can't find a reference online.
CDC director Redfield has said that he expects a second wave to be worse than the first.
The second wave of the Spanish flu 1917-18 was worse than the first, after social distancing was relaxed.
I'd love to read what you heard Fauci say this morning, and get his reasoning on this.

Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA

Architect1776 wrote:

Your second wave is a complete lie.
Dr. Fauci personally reiterated this morning that this is a complete lie and is a fabrication of the DNC and fake news. There will be a second wave, possibly, but NOT anywhere near what is happening now.
I personally listened to him this morning refute the fake news lies.

If that is the case, than Dr. Fauci has completely changed course on what he has said in the past, and what history of flus and pandemics have shown us.

In regards to DNC or RNC or people in general, this isn't political. When you can train the virus to behave to take out a certain class of people than come talk to me.

I have been in healthcare over 40 years. I am a-political when it comes to healthcare. I have studied and helped my region prepare for disasters and pandemics for over 25 years.

My Grandparents both lost their first spouses in the 1918 Spanish Flu during the "second wave" in winter. Ya its real. It may very well happen.

Two types of testing... those that are positive for active SARS COV2, or those that have antigens that show they were exposed and recovered (even symptomless). But, that will not protect the millions that haven't had either test and may have not been exposed (herd immunity).

Vaccine is months away if not years. Why? Because, viruses mutate and this virus has already demonstrated at least 18 mutations according to scientists. So... it is a throw of the dice.

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