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Apr 21, 2020 14:33:12   #
CWS Loc: El Paso, TX
 
Thanks for posting this comparison. Is there a legacy lens section on the Uglyhedgehog? I have been considering purchasing either the Sony A7ii or the A7rii. I currently have the Sony NEX 6 and 7 and have quite a few legacy lenses. Question is would the A7Rii's 42 MP be a waste on these legacy lenses? Would the A7ii's 24 mp be more suited to use with old glass?. What prompted you to purchase the A7Rii?
CWS

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Apr 21, 2020 15:18:38   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
CWS wrote:
Thanks for posting this comparison. Is there a legacy lens section on the Uglyhedgehog? I have been considering purchasing either the Sony A7ii or the A7rii. I currently have the Sony NEX 6 and 7 and have quite a few legacy lenses. Question is would the A7Rii's 42 MP be a waste on these legacy lenses? Would the A7ii's 24 mp be more suited to use with old glass?. What prompted you to purchase the A7Rii?
CWS

Just my personal opinion but too much resolution might result in your being disappointed in your older lenses and make you feel like starting another round of expensive investment. I stopped at 24MP for that reason.

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Apr 21, 2020 15:18:47   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
gkl wrote:
Metabones manufactured ALPA to,,,,, mounts, check their website. Kipone also but not on par with Metabones quality.


Thanks for the input; only one adapter available and only for Leica.

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Apr 21, 2020 15:26:31   #
gkl Loc: Old Lyme, CT
 
CWS wrote:
Thanks for posting this comparison. Is there a legacy lens section on the Uglyhedgehog? I have been considering purchasing either the Sony A7ii or the A7rii. I currently have the Sony NEX 6 and 7 and have quite a few legacy lenses. Question is would the A7Rii's 42 MP be a waste on these legacy lenses? Would the A7ii's 24 mp be more suited to use with old glass?. What prompted you to purchase the A7Rii?
CWS


No AA filter on the R's. I would go for the 24MP but it has the AA filter.

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Apr 21, 2020 15:38:53   #
gkl Loc: Old Lyme, CT
 
selmslie wrote:
Just my personal opinion but too much resolution might result in your being disappointed in your older lenses and make you feel like starting another round of expensive investment. I stopped at 24MP for that reason.


Agreed that 24MP is a sweet spot. Leonardo da Vinci preached "soft" edges for painters. Notice his paintings, subject is not really sharp but embeds many, many layers of mirco-contrast; while the background is often sharper but with much muted lightness.

The coatings on older lenses are not as efficient as the newer multi-layer coated lens; therefore have lower transmission efficiency. There is a Zeiss tech note where they compared a 1930 Planar with an exact copy but with their new T multi-layer coating. The "sharpen" is night and day.

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Apr 21, 2020 15:40:42   #
gkl Loc: Old Lyme, CT
 
selmslie wrote:
Just my personal opinion but too much resolution might result in your being disappointed in your older lenses and make you feel like starting another round of expensive investment. I stopped at 24MP for that reason.


Sorry I must have bought the last one. If had a second one would let you have it at cost.

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Apr 21, 2020 15:52:39   #
CWS Loc: El Paso, TX
 
selmslie wrote:
Just my personal opinion but too much resolution might result in your being disappointed in your older lenses and make you feel like starting another round of expensive investment. I stopped at 24MP for that reason.


Thanks for the response. That is exactly what I was thinking. More resolution and MPs won't help the older lenses.

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Apr 21, 2020 16:00:42   #
gkl Loc: Old Lyme, CT
 
Julian wrote:
Thanks for the input; only one adapter available and only for Leica.


I think they discontinued ALPA to E mount. If I have a second one, would be glad to let you have it at cost.

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Apr 21, 2020 16:16:47   #
CWS Loc: El Paso, TX
 
gkl wrote:
Agreed that 24MP is a sweet spot. Leonardo da Vinci preached "soft" edges for painters. Notice his paintings, subject is not really sharp but embeds many, many layers of mirco-contrast; while the background is often sharper but with much muted lightness.

The coatings on older lenses are not as efficient as the newer multi-layer coated lens; therefore have lower transmission efficiency. There is a Zeiss tech note where they compared a 1930 Planar with an exact copy but with their new T multi-layer coating. The "sharpen" is night and day.
Agreed that 24MP is a sweet spot. Leonardo da Vin... (show quote)


Yes, the newer lenses with the multi-layer coatings are sharper and usually have more contrast, but I like the character, for lack of a better word, some of the older glass has. Thanks again for responding. I had not thought of the lack of the AA filter on the 7Rii.

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Apr 21, 2020 23:25:34   #
woodweasel Loc: bellingham Wa
 
Interesting

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