nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY

Perhaps there should be a mass Darwin Award for those people who say "It can't happen here in MY state", and don't see a need for SOCIETY to do what it can to protect itself. Then you can get the Virus, die off, and the human gene pool will be rid of your genetic material.

Is Michigan putting up a closed border to keep everyone in so that you won't carry your Coronavirus anywhere else?

There's a state with the motto "Live Free or Die". You can also live free AND die. Just don't pretend you are only hurting yourself.

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

Many of those in power didn't believe we were about to be attacked by Japan either until Pearl Harbor. I'm not saying that this is definitely the result of a bio weapon, but I'm not saying that it isn't either. We just don't know yet. I don't trust China. I do believe that they wish they were a much more powerful country compared to the rest of the world. As far as bio weapons are concerned if you think that countries all over the world aren't working on bio weapons that could be used on other counties you need to get your head out of the sand. That includes the United States. If Iran had a weapon like that how long do you think it would take them to distribute it all over Israel. It is getting harder and harder to trust any country anymore. Just don't let your guard down until we really know what this virus is and how and why was it developed in the first place. Don't forget that China was warning us to stay out of the China sea or there would be severe retaliations. We made them look really bad in the rest of the world because our Navy still patrols those waters. If there ever is another World War, God forbid, I don't think it would be started with bombs; that would be to obvious and the retaliation of an attack like that would surely mean the end of most major countries. The first attack by a county on anyone would be in a way that would be difficult for anyone to know for certain who started it until it was too late. What better way to put another country on it's knees than to attack it with sickness some way so that it's economy and it's normal way of life was stopped dead in it's tracks? Never forget Pearl Harbor, never forget 9/11.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

I know full well that many countries, including the US, is developing bio weapons and trying to learn how to counteract them (my father is a microbiologist/virologist), but there are a number of facts that suggest that even if it was accidentally released from the Wuhan virology, it was not intended as a weapon. First, every virologist that has published their results shows that this was from an animal (likely a bat), not a human engineered virus. Secondly, while it is certainly caused world chaos and caused a world wide financial depression, it’s not a very effective bioweapon as it kills mostly the aged and the infirm, not young healthy soldiers. Finally, what has China to gain? A huge amount of their trade is with the US. If they hurt US purchasing of Chinese goods (consumer spending was down 9% last month, and much of that was for Chinese products), it just hurts their economy as much as ours. It MAY turn out to be an accidental release from a lab in China, but I doubt it was an engineered bio attack. Having said all that, the Chinese are clearly in an expansionistic stance, especially in the South China Sea, and they are becoming closer to the Russians, Iranians and of course, the North Koreans, so I do agree that we need to be very cognizant of the threat.

CWGordon

Tri-X:
Good information and thought process. Thank you.

CWGordon

Tri-X:
Good information and thought process. Thank you.

nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY

Have to take exception to your saying "as it kills mostly the aged and the infirm, not young healthy soldiers."

It already HAS killed some young American soldiers. Most recent is the sailor from the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt. And with the large number of infected shipmates, it is certainly possible more might die.

There's a big difference between "at lower risk" and "immune". Let's not think that there is ANY group that doesn't have to worry.

Charlie157 Loc: San Diego, CA

The Sec. Of Health of Kansas, who is an MD, mentioned that while a military doctor in the middle East he had to work with the MERS, (Coronavires) virus outbreak. The MERS outbreak lasted four years.

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

I just reread my post and I kind of thought I was posting to a group who might read it. Just wanted you to know that the part where I said "get your head out of the sand" was not meant to be directed at you TriX. When I reread that I thought, whoops, there is one of those "ooopps" moments. I apologies if you took it that way.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

It will last as long as there isn't a vaccine to conquer it! And may turn into another annual update shot like the flu shot...

bwa

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Really why don’t you show that “media”...... Facebook doesn’t count .

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

MOSTLY is exactly what I meant, and that is not in conflict that it kills SOME younger people. I could pull up the latest specs, but last I looked, 80% of the fatalities are over 60.

I by no means think younger people are immune. I have a 36 year old son who is a teacher (fortunately school is out) and whose wife is pregnant and a 44 year old who is a fire chief and EMT, and I worry about them all the time. My wife and I are retired, and comfortable, so we can have food and meds delivered and stay isolated, but I feel terrible for all those that either have to go to work and take the risk or don’t have jobs to go to.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

I did not take it badly at all, but thanks for the consideration. Like all things, there is room for different opinions and civil discourse, and I understand and respect any of those that have different opinions on this subject.

Cheers,
Chris

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

bwa

Bob Werre

Most of the time the camera never left being around my neck. I suppose when I did some micro photographs some germs were in the area but do you really think every crime scene from now on will be filled with Covid 19 germs?

Dennis[/quote]

Now I don't think anything of the kind, but if this virus is treated like a common cold, you get what we've now got. I only mentioned that CSI kinda program because of the holes the typical programs show...so you misunderstood what I was trying to put forward. The medical/scientific photography I've worked on has involved non criminal things, only research and marketing. I was told that if we contaminate the field, the client/customer/patient has a bad day--they die! I've been involved in transplants, DNA and some cancer research. And by the way the camera often leaves my hands for a tripod for use under a vent hood. We frequently use alcohol pads to clean the basic surfaces, I'm wearing scrubs, booties, face masks and a couple of times forced air systems. The problem has been in a couple of cases, we've had to add outside lighting (strobes) and those things go from from factories, homes, and anything I can shoot. So basically they are filthy, so we clean the best we can and then depend on clean-room air pressure and never shoot down--only to the side.