Getting the country back to work: First a few facts, regarding risks. THose undr the age of 70, are at lower risk. The co-morbidities that increase risk are. Vascular disease, Lung...

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

First a few facts, regarding risks. THose undr the age of 70, are at lower risk. The co-morbidities that increase risk are. Vascular disease, Lung Disease, and diabetes. Therefore not having any of those problems further rdeuces risk. As a group if you consider all those reductions of risks, the likelyhood of dying from the virus is something like .02% So, getting back to work need not all at once. Parts of thyeworking public can return to work immediatly. Anothyer part a delay, and the rest after the last delay. In other words , it need not be all at once. Think of it as a light bulb. On all at once or like 3 way bulb. One more thing to consider. Since healthy children are not in any of those high risk groups school can begin immediatly. The death rate from the panic as a result of increased opioid overdose and from suicide in depressives is on the increase as a result of the panic. So we may be entering that time where the cure is worse than the disease..

tommy2 Loc: Fort Worth, Texas

I guess you will provide teachers with PPE that are sent back into crowded classrooms huh? (I don't want my "teacher" spouse back into the classroom way to soon.)

PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon

As, indeed, Spain is doing.

From the BBC News a few minutes ago:

Spain, one of the countries worst hit by the coronavirus, is beginning to ease strict lockdown measures that have brought its economy to a standstill.
People in manufacturing, construction and some services are being allowed to return to work, but must stick to strict safety guidelines.
The rest of the population must still remain at home.
Almost 17,500 people with Covid-19 have died in Spain, but the rate of new infections has been falling.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Schools can begin immediately because healthy children are not a high risk group?
I am not going to explain the stupidity of that.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Kmgw9v wrote:

Schools can begin immediately because healthy children are not a high risk group?
I am not going to explain the stupidity of that.

Why is it stupid when the risk of dying in the car on the way to the school, or anywhere else is greater than a risk from ANY disease. So BTW, are you. One of the most dangerous thing youncan do is drive. Over 50,000 people die each year. And the risk of injury is catastrophic. Thed vast overwhelming number of injury from car accidents are never even reported

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

boberic wrote:

Why is it stupid when the risk of dying in the car on the way to the school, or anywhere else is greater than a risk from ANY disease. So BTW, are you. One of the most dangerous thing youncan do is drive. Over 50,000 people die each year. And the risk of injury is catastrophic. Thed vast overwhelming number of injury from car accidents are never even reported

The best thing a man can do is to never be born; failing that, he should die young,

PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon

boberic wrote:

Why is it stupid when the risk of dying in the car on the way to the school, or anywhere else is greater than a risk from ANY disease. So BTW, are you. One of the most dangerous thing youncan do is drive. Over 50,000 people die each year. And the risk of injury is catastrophic. Thed vast overwhelming number of injury from car accidents are never even reported

And that is why in my old country many years ago I sat for the Institute of Advanced Motorists exam ( see https://www.iamroadsmart.com/ ).

I have now been a member for 54 years and, touch wood, many times, have not had an accident in those years.

Safe driving is no accident!

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

PaulBrit wrote:

And that is why in my old country many years ago I sat for the Institute of Advanced Motorists exam ( see https://www.iamroadsmart.com/ ).

I have now been a member for 54 years and, touch wood, many times, have not had an accident in those years.

Safe driving is no accident!

Right. I’m not worried about dying from a stupid ole virus—I am a safe driver.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I don't believe that full employment can begin until we get testing under control. Testing, isolation, and traceback. This virus is very infectious and those steps are needed to protect people out among the public.

So the US has done a lot of testing????? Really? How many tests? 100,000? 1,000,000? If we've done a million tests we have only tested 0.3% of the population. Less than that because some have gotten tested more than once. I think we are really in need of a billion tests or more. If we can test, we can limit exposure. And the testing has to be followed up on.

There is just too much about this disease we don't know yet. Will you have immunity if you recover from it? How fast is it likely to mutate (getting it out of possible immunity control)?

If we send everyone back to work without any mitigation measures in place we risk a resurgence, leading to a larger problem than we have now.

If there's one thing that everyone knows about themselves it is that they are an above average driver.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

PaulBrit wrote:

And that is why in my old country many years ago I sat for the Institute of Advanced Motorists exam ( see https://www.iamroadsmart.com/ ).

I have now been a member for 54 years and, touch wood, many times, have not had an accident in those years.

Safe driving is no accident!

Only problem is other drivers, especially drunk ones. Most don't know that 60mph is a touch tunder 90 feet feet per second- It takes about 1/3 of thatb second to move 30feet. and 1/3 of a second to react. If you are going 60mph and the driver ahead is as well, and he hits his brake hard, you will hit him every time, before your foot even hits the brakes. Be careful out there

PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon

boberic wrote:

Only problem is other drivers, especially drunk ones. Most don't know that 60mph is a touch tunder 90 feet feet per second- It takes about 1/3 of thatb second to move 30feet. and 1/3 of a second to react. If you are going 60mph and the driver ahead is as well, and he hits his brake hard, you will hit him every time, before your foot even hits the brakes. Be careful out there

Exactly! Here in Southern Oregon one of the biggest mistakes I see very time we go out is following cars much too close. The minimum distance guide is one car length for every 10 mph that one is traveling. And that's a minimum based on good focus and attention.

Bill_de Loc: US

As of yesterday in Delaware:

815 age 18-49
463 age 50-64
309 age over 65 Us old folks in Delaware must be smarter than the young'uns.

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PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon

PaulBrit wrote:

And that is why in my old country many years ago I sat for the Institute of Advanced Motorists exam ( see https://www.iamroadsmart.com/ ).

I have now been a member for 54 years and, touch wood, many times, have not had an accident in those years.

Safe driving is no accident!

I was just outside thinking about this thread and wondered if there was an equivalent to the IAM above here in the USA?

Anhanga Brasil Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil

Will you and yours ? Desperate "money makers" want all "blue-collars" to
return to save the "Ecomony" (a.k.a., "Idiocracy").
Go ! Take the risks ! Be the martyr of your cause.

Bill_de Loc: US

Anhanga Brasil wrote:

Will you and yours ? Desperate "money makers" want all "blue-collars" to
return to save the "Ecomony" (a.k.a., "Idiocracy").
Go ! Take the risks ! Be the martyr of your cause.

We already have thousands, probably millions, of people going to work every day to help the rest of us keep going. They are the health care workers and the people that provide the food we put on our tables, not to mention those that keep the power plants running. The list goes on and on. Fifty years ago I was asked to put my life on the line in service to my country, and answered the call. If I was called to help out today I would answer the call again.

Too many people want to leave it to the other guy, and that is sad.

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