Straightshooter Loc: Edmonton AB

Are you telling me that the overcrowding in hospitals and having to build extra hospital accommodation and funeral homes that can’t keep up and mass graves in New York State is a normal yearly thing

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Some people had tested positive for a novel coronavirus infection at time of death, but were in hospital for another reason. Although the other reason might have killed them, the death may have been attributed to Covid-19. I'd love to hear a NY doctor chime in on this widely reported speculation.

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

Much of the new hospital beds are a result of the panic. Many are empty. New York is possibly an exception probably due to the people per acre issue.

skylinefirepest Loc: Southern Pines, N.C.

We have put this country into DIRE financial problems over a virus that hasn't killed as many as the flu this year...and First Responders are taking the brunt of the problem. The dems hollered about closing gun stores, saying snarky crap like "you can't shoot the virus" but the potential problem is NOT the virus...but the economy. There was a record amount of guns and ammunition sold last month because even the gun haters realize that if the business world is not re-opened shortly the result would possibly be worse than the virus. Do you really think that even good, hard working citizens are going to remain that way once they run out of money and food and can't feed their kids??? We gun owners have found it interesting that these first time gun hating but gotta have one buyers are now finding out what they have forced the rest of us to live with for years with useless background checks, waiting periods, etc. The next month may be more interesting than the previous four.

Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State

That is probably an over simplification of events. My daughter is an infection control nurse in Seattle, WA. and my grandson's wife is an ICU nurse in Seattle. I can tell you with some certainty that the "panic" in a legitimate concern. Thankfully things are improving there.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

But "the rest of us" already have our guns, so what's the problem?

CaptainBobBrown

No. It does not put Covid-19 into perspective. In 11 days since April 1 world wide deaths according to JHU stand at 106,479 and going up thousands a day. Both infection rates and mortality rates far exceed, for example, influenza. U.S. mortality rate (deaths officially attributed to Covid-19 v. proven cases) now approaching 3.85%, far exceeding average annual influenza mortality rate in U.S. of around .09%.* As U.S. mortality rate continues to climb it is approaching the global mortality rate currently standing at over 6%. That's 1 out of every 16 proven cases resulting in death. We're getting there too.

*That's 9/100 of 1%.

It makes zero sense only a few months into this pandemic to assert that Covid-19 is somehow anywhere equivalent in scope, mortality, or morbidity to any other disease humanity has faced since the 1500's except possibly the "Spanish flu" in 1918-19. Please look at and consider all the facts currently known about this disease before trying to minimize the need for an all out effort to counter it.

Of course, if you are one of those who figure that a few thousand deaths among younger people plus a significantly higher mortality and morbidity among our older population is a good thing I suppose it makes sense to just let er rip and play the Darwinian card. It will be easier then "death panels".

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

OK. But of course those churches do have the option then of closing or remaining open. Because they have a choice, and of course so do the parishioners who attend that church, does not mean they will choose to remain open. But leave it to you to always select the worst of the two evils just because that is what you and yours would do.

Are you not a grown up? Do you honestly think all Conservatives are idiots because they do not go along with your thinking? Who decided your thinking was correct on everything and mine was false on everything? Yet there you are in all of your idiotic Liberal glory trying to claim anything good done by the Democratic Party. Of course on the Common Sense side there is me bringing up the slavery issue brought to us by the Democratic Party, the racial problems in America still brought to us by the Democratic Party. By the way what has the Democratic Party done for the black race in the last 150 or more years? What has the Democratic Liberal Party done for even the past three years except waste years and millions of dollars trying to bring down President Trump with no victory in sight so far.

I will stick to the side of common sense.

Dennis

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

The pandemic has just begun here in NC. We have a few pockets of contagion (Wake, Mecklenburg, Durham, and Guilford, and other regions with some. https://www.ncdhhs.gov/es/divisions/public-health/covid19/covid-19-nc-case-count

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

And that number is huge as perhaps millions had it and did not know it.

Steve V Loc: New Jersey

Have you seen the cover of the New York post yesterday?

Steve V Loc: New Jersey

New numbers.
Breaking News: The United States passed Italy in confirmed coronavirus deaths, as the toll climbed to 20,110 and as many as 2,000 people die every day. NYT.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

Rodney Howard-Browne is pastor of the megachurch River at Tampa Bay. In a video he posted he said "“And if it is the end, then so be it. We’re willing to die for the cause of the Gospel,” Howard-Browne's voice boomed, calling the directive to close churches amid the pandemic an “insidious plan to shut the church of Jesus Christ down.”

I never said anything about all conservatives. There are many conservatives who oppose Trump who is anything but a conservative. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-are-plenty-of-anti-trump-republicans-you-just-have-to-know-where-to-look/

Lyndon Johnson got the Civil Rights Act passed. He was a Democrat. John F Kennedy used federal troops to enforce desegregation in Southern schools. He was a Democrat.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Italy has a population of 60.3 million USA has a population of 328.2 million, that is 5.4 times more people. Thus if Ital had the same rate with a population of the USA there would be 109,454 deaths in Italy.
It is very silly and ignorant to compare these small countries to the USA as to number of deaths. Also it is coming out that a huge portion of the deaths in the USA are NOT caused by the virus but because the person tested positive for it the virus has been listed as the cause when it actually was NOT the cause.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

That's correct but bear in mind that the US has tested 50% less per million compared to Italy
Also the US is behind in this virus cycle. I do hope it won't turn out to be as bad as in Italy.