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Apr 11, 2020 10:37:27   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fetzler wrote:
Dennis, it is always good put things into perspective.

First, it is always tragic when a loved one dies. It doesn't matter whether the cause is COVID, a car crash, a slip in the tub, or cancer. The panic over the current situation has however, for many, reached hysterical proportions.

At present 0.001% (~ 100,000 people) of humanity has perished from COVID. This means that 99.999% have not died form COVID. Each year 60 million people die from all causes(Cancer, starvation, disease, etc) while 17 million die of infectious disease.

It will be important to remember the deaths caused caused by poverty and suicide and drug addiction caused by the lack of economic activity. It will be interesting to see score sheet at the end.
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Apr 11, 2020 10:38:21   #
Lcfitt Loc: Cameron Park, CA
 
I did this math problem a couple of weeks ago for no reason except curiosity.
Current world population 7.5 billion. Very few live over 110 years so chose that as the divisor. 7,500,000,000÷110=68,000,000. 68 million obituaries every year worldwide. I originally used the term "funerals" untill someone reminded me that in some cultures, funerals are combined.

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Apr 11, 2020 10:47:13   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well of course it doesn't make the problem any less pressing. I am one hell of a guy and darn near perfect in every way but I am not THAT good.

I posted the numbers maybe so that people like those here on the UHH forum, not The Attic, would look at those numbers and see that the sky is NOT falling, all may not be right with the world but there is light at the end of the tunnel. Already the death rate in many places is falling, the economy is starting to look better, we as a people are at least looking at a brighter future. Considering our past, world wide, we have been through worse and yet here we are still going strong. While I posted it at first just for the numbers in answering your question it came clear to me that the above is why I am posting these numbers.

There is going to be much rejoicing and hopefully soon as the world beats this virus. Will we be better prepared for the next one? Honestly I doubt it. In some ways we will be prepared but as for a cure then, NO, we will not be. That takes time. But we will be farther ahead each time because of the last time.

Dennis
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Apr 11, 2020 10:55:28   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
It's obvious. Covid-19 is a piker when it comes to the number of deaths. Even compared to SARS, etc. The statistic that most fail to publish is the number of people who survive having Covid-19.
--Bob
Kmgw9v wrote:
State the point.

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Apr 11, 2020 10:56:14   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
burkphoto wrote:
Oh, it has! My insurance company just yesterday rebated 20% of premiums for April and May.


Mine's doing 25% for April.

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Apr 11, 2020 11:10:48   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I could be more specific, but what fun would that be.

I guess one needs an open mind to understand what the hell I'm talking about. Currently the number one global issue is the Covid-19 pandemic. Eventually the corona-virus issue will evolve into a non-issue. When this happens, maybe things like deaths from malaria, suicide, traffic fatalities, HIV, alcohol, smoking, cancer (does that include lung cancer as a result of smoking?), hunger and abortion, will become major issues to be addressed like covid-19 has been. No I'm not talking about everyone staying home and closing schools and non-essential businesses. I'm talking about people and governments getting involved to make automobiles safer and find a cure for cancer and put an end to hunger and smoking and stuff like that. Many politicians don't want to touch some of these issues because it could have a negative effect on their endless need to get reelected.
I could be more specific, but what fun would that ... (show quote)


Where have you been? Cars have been getting safer over the years. How have you missed that point. It sure has not been a subtle difference either. Every year something new has been added to add to the safety features. As far as I know scientists are still looking for a cure for cancer. What with all of the freebies from the federal government there should not be a hungry person in America. Politicians have indeed been touching all of the above since the day I was born. Are you not paying attention? Perhaps you should pay more attention to the daily news and less to The Attic or UHH.

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2020 11:11:07   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
foathog wrote:
I'm sure these right wing crazies will be attending a full church tomorrow. Especially cause the virus is such a farce.


Some will become Darwin Award recipients.

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Apr 11, 2020 11:13:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jackm1943 wrote:
Mine's doing 25% for April.


It’s state by state.

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Apr 11, 2020 11:17:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Delderby wrote:
In a word - toffee.
What your clever clogs friend has not accounted for is that the covid 19 fatalities are depite a global lockdown.


toffee????? clogs friend?????

The point is pretty plain to me. Yes Covid 19 is killing people. Your global lockdown is a farce. SOME people are locking down while others are not. That is true even here in America. The other point is before the so called lockdown millions of people, some who were infected with the virus were out and about with the other millions of people. Yes the lockdown is working and hopefully the virus will in the course of time die out.

But the virus is the least killer in the chart I posted. Nobody knows what the final number dead will be but already the normal annual flu is more than twice dead than the virus. It is a killer every single year. Yet nobody locks down, no panic buying, no new government regulations, no bashing the President and so on.

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2020 11:21:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dennis2146 wrote:
toffee????? clogs friend?????

The point is pretty plain to me. Yes Covid 19 is killing people. Your global lockdown is a farce. SOME people are locking down while others are not. That is true even here in America. The other point is before the so called lockdown millions of people, some who were infected with the virus were out and about with the other millions of people. Yes the lockdown is working and hopefully the virus will in the course of time die out.

But the virus is the least killer in the chart I posted. Nobody knows what the final number dead will be but already the normal annual flu is more than twice dead than the virus. It is a killer every single year. Yet nobody locks down, no panic buying, no new government regulations, no bashing the President and so on.

Dennis
toffee????? clogs friend????? br br The point is... (show quote)


Even the flu stat is suspect. How many deaths in that figure were really from flu, and not the novel coronavirus? We don’t know, where the victims were not tested.

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Apr 11, 2020 11:21:22   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
tshift wrote:
The numbers for Hunger and Abortion are so tragic! We need help. Look at the cancer deaths. I keep thinking that there is a cure for cancer already but they have it hid. A cure would stop the flow of so much money and put so many people out of business that cronus-19 would look so small compared. I hope that this could never be true, GOD help us if it could be. You would think if they can control so many other ailments as they will covid-19 soon WHY can't they with cancer. HAPPY EASTER TO EVERYONE!

Tom
The numbers for Hunger and Abortion are so tragic!... (show quote)


Surely you are kidding about someone having a cure for cancer but is hiding it. That is the worst conspiracy theory I have ever heard. And you say it is all so someone can keep a job. Good grief.

Just off the top of my head I suspect there are a great many cancers and there are breakthroughs. Hopefully a cure will be soon. But let's not forget we can't even cure the common cold yet. But we do have medicines that make the common cold much easier to tolerate by controlling the symptoms. Takes time.

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2020 11:23:13   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Jack47 wrote:
How do people die from smoking?


Just off the top of my head I would think cancer, tuberculosis, emphysema for a start.

Perhaps some of the doctors in attendance here can offer better than I can.

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2020 11:25:50   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Bill, you bring up an interesting point. I read somewhere that, I believe in NY, any deaths due to illness are being recorded as Corvid-19 caused. This has to skew the statistics in a very unbelievable manner.
--Bob
burkphoto wrote:
Even the flu stat is suspect. How many deaths in that figure were really from flu, and not the novel coronavirus? We don’t know, where the victims were not tested.

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Apr 11, 2020 11:26:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
exakta56 wrote:
This chart is politically motivated and has an agenda which can be seen if you look at it carefully. Many types of causes of deaths are not mentioned such as industrial, mining, chemical etc. But when you read down to the bottom you find 'abortions' and the largest number of 'deaths'. There is the issue. Read it over again. This incomplete accounting of deaths includes what is a proven, medical procedure used by women who for reasons that are there own,choose to terminate their pregnancies.The far right deems this murder.
If you are a woman , and have been pregnant and decided to terminate, please speak up.
And if any man has had the same experience, this would be a good time to share your story.
This chart is politically motivated and has an age... (show quote)


Yes I am sure it is politically motivated. Sorry that every single cause of death on the planet is not mentioned. Perhaps it is taking into account only those deaths that are in quantity rather than minuscule numbers. I am sure someone in America died after biting off a hangnail which then became infected leading to death. Sorry that one case isn't mentioned but I am sure somewhere it happened to someone.

You are kidding aren't you?

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2020 11:28:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Dennis, don't forget the few that fall asleep while smoking, ignite their clothes or surroundings and burn to death.
--Bob
dennis2146 wrote:
Just off the top of my head I would think cancer, tuberculosis, emphysema for a start.

Perhaps some of the doctors in attendance here can offer better than I can.

Dennis

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