Extending sun rays, your help please
Apr 5, 2020 22:51:23 #
twosummers
Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks, but no more software for me - a New Year's Resolution 
I'm impressed - or did you mean no more NEW software?
Apr 6, 2020 07:20:33 #
twosummers wrote:
HA, sorry, yes. No more purchases. I will continue to use what I have until it or my computer breaks. Then we'll re-assess I'm impressed - or did you mean no more NEW software?
Apr 6, 2020 09:07:39 #
Guyserman
Loc: Benton, AR
Linda From Maine wrote:
I realized that the way I'm used to - and currentl... (show quote)
Linda, I've got to think about this shadow business. I know they will naturally appear farther apart near to you but shouldn't their vanishing point be the sun?
Apr 6, 2020 09:29:28 #
Guyserman wrote:
I don't think I understand, Mr. G. Take a look at the "original" in the OP. Is there something there that doesn't look right? I didn't do anything to the shadows until this thread. Tell me more!Linda, I've got to think about this shadow business. I know they will naturally appear farther apart near to you but shouldn't their vanishing point be the sun?
Apr 6, 2020 09:38:15 #
Guyserman
Loc: Benton, AR
Linda From Maine wrote:
I don't think I understand, Mr. G. Take a look at the "original" in the OP. Is there something there that doesn't look right? I didn't do anything to the shadows until this thread. Tell me more!
If you extend the lines of the shadows on beyond the trees they should all converge at the sun. (I think.) (When I first saw this topic it was already past this point so I commented here but it applies to the original also.)
Apr 6, 2020 10:15:44 #
The rays would vanish at the sun, but the shadows come from the angle of the sun to the obstruction as they cast onto the changing surface of the earth, notice the trees shadow. The hills also form a shadow as they block the sun so the shadows emanate from them. I agree darkening the shadows a little would accentuate the rays. In photoshop I might try levels for this and mask away the parts I didn't like. Even the burn tool could work though, and I think elements has that, and its easier.
Apr 6, 2020 10:43:01 #
Guyserman wrote:
I am sooo confused. Below is a crop of the "original" I included in OP (I don't have the original original).If you extend the lines of the shadows on beyond the trees they should all converge at the sun. (I think.) (When I first saw this topic it was already past this point so I commented here but it applies to the original also.)
- the tree shadows have not been manipulated in any way. They appear to cross the river and end at the foreground bushes, or below that - out of sight.
- in my newest edit click here, I darkened the tree shadows in the river and extended them into the foreground bushes. I tried to continue a line that was "straight" based on the angle of each shadow.
- I also brightened areas of the foreground as if the sunshine was reaching that far. Is that what you're referring to? In reality I believe there are sun flares in the bushes that I cloned over. You can still see two in the water near where it turns the corner, as well as one (greenish) in the bushes where brightest, near left side. I don't know why the foreground isn't brighter, other than maybe something to do with my original exposure or the sun rays just don't reach that far because of the sun's low angle.
Please stay with me and help me understand!
Apr 6, 2020 10:51:10 #
Apr 6, 2020 10:53:28 #
maryo wrote:
Thanks Mary. I don't know which "here" you mean as there are additional edits. If you use the quote reply button under a specific posting, that will clarify which and where. I know it looks like just the "reply" button should attach itself to a specific posting, but it doesn't i like it just the way you fixed it here.
Apr 6, 2020 11:11:59 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I don't think I understand, Mr. G. Take a look at the "original" in the OP. Is there something there that doesn't look right? I didn't do anything to the shadows until this thread. Tell me more!
The shadows have a vanishing point BEHIND the trees. The shadow is born at the base of the each tree. Note the vertical line; the sun is parked directly over that same vanishing point.
The shadow are lying on the flat earth, not angling up toward the sun.
Apr 6, 2020 11:14:29 #
l-fox wrote:
OK. How does that relate to the edits I did, which are only to the foreground?The shadows have a vanishing point BEHIND the trees. The shadow is born at the base of the each tree. Note the vertical line; the sun is parked directly over that same vanishing point.
Apr 6, 2020 11:21:48 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
OK. How does that relate to the edits I did, which are only to the foreground?
Guyserman brought up the subject and you use the word "confused". I'm just trying to indicate why the shadows don't behave as he expected and hopefully get my friend "unconfused".
Apr 6, 2020 11:25:11 #
l-fox wrote:
I might be way beyond help, but thank you for trying, Larry!Guyserman brought up the subject and you use the word "confused". I'm just trying to indicate why the shadows don't behave as he expected and hopefully get my friend "unconfused".
Apr 6, 2020 12:01:22 #
Here's a way in PS there are likely others search youtube and or google
https://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/add-rays-of-sunlight-to-a-photo-with-photoshop/
https://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/add-rays-of-sunlight-to-a-photo-with-photoshop/
Apr 6, 2020 12:02:59 #
Guyserman
Loc: Benton, AR
Linda From Maine wrote:
I might be way beyond help, but thank you for trying, Larry!
You don't need help. I'm the one that needed help. I see now that the shot was taken from a high elevation which caused the shadows to appear the way they did. Thanks, I-fox.
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