Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana

or if the road had little or no shoulder and the driver pulled partially on to the shoulder with part of the car still on the driving surface, I can see a cop giving him a ticket for impeding traffic, even if it is a dead end road with little traffic. It's one thing to have a flat or a break down and have the car sticking into the roadway; it's something else to stop with part of the car on the road if all you want to do is take a picture. That's where common sense comes in.

insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida

Thanks, Dennis. I was also told that unless there is at least one strand of fencing erected the sign has no validity? Any idea if that is correct?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I am talking about the government property.

Dennis

Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana

I grew up in rural PA, and many of those narrow country roads were nothing but dirt roads until they were paved by the C.C.C. during the Great Depression. Individual property lines probably go right to the edge of the shoulder and perhaps the ditch since the roads originated just from convenient trails between farms and villages.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I have no idea. Each state has its own laws regarding trespassing. In some states if the land is not posted then the owner is giving a type of blanket permission for hunters, fishermen and whoever else to go on that land. If the land is posted it means no permission unless you ask for and receive permission. Some states state you need the land owners written permission to trespass. My land was always posted but if someone asked permission to hunt or cross the land then I gave it depending on what the people looked like, their demeanor and so on.

One year just near the close of the first hunting season a man, his wife and a small daughter drove up to the house and asked for permission to shoot a buck near the front of my driveway. I said that was fine but asked where by the driveway. As it turned out he was talking about property owned by my neighbor. I suggested if the deer was not on my property that evening then it would definitely be on my property the next morning or evening and told him exactly where to go to shoot it. He was kind enough to come back with some sausage for my wife and I. The following year I was off hunting elk and on opening morning about 5:00 AM this same man drove up our driveway waking up my wife to ask if he could hunt. She said No. Problem was it wasn't just this man but he had brought two other truckloads of hunters, probably six total that wanted to hunt. Had he come by himself and at a decent hour like a day or two before she probably would have given permission for HIM. My land wasn't enough to sustain 6 bucks to be taken. I also had family that hunted there.

Dennis

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Two comments on this thread, both based on the time we lived in Western Massachusetts:

1. Responding to aellman: When my wife first moved there, we used the copious number of "Dunkin Donuts" paking lots to turn around in. Within a few months, we learned that true natives just make a U-turn a the light, regardless of how it is marked.

2. Residents of New England go crazy over "colors" in the Fall. We never saw enough parking for the demand, so natives just seem to find a nearby place to stop and leave their cars there, regardless of how they are marked.

Steve V Loc: New Jersey

Dennis,

Ok. But I was hoping for some insight on the other part of my reply. As a hunter what do you think about the poaching. And should I tell the church?

Steve

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Forgive me. It has been a busy day at my house.

As a hunter I am definitely against poaching and rate it as a very serious crime. I would not only tell the property owners at the church but also notify the local fish and game warden to alert him too. As for the baiting it is legal in some states but not in others. I know in Texas it is legal but in Colorado it is definitely illegal. But the local warden can tell you whether it is legal or not. I can't tell you how strongly I feel though that you should let those people know.

Some poachers equate their illegal actions as to someone who has no meat in the house, is out of work and so on. While I can sympathize with people in that predicament and might do the same thing on my own private property the fact remains that those people are generally few and far between. Poachers generally do not kill a doe for meat but will pick out trophy animals to kill then take only the trophy parts, antlers, and let the rest of the animal go to waste. In most states killing an animal for the antlers and letting the meat go to waste is also a separate crime.

Dennis

Steve V Loc: New Jersey

Thanks Dennis. Although I don’t always agree with all your opinions they are well spoken and thoughtful and as such I value them.

Hope all is well on your busy day.

Steve

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Thank you my friend. I don't agree with many people on here including some Conservatives but I consider just about everyone here my friend. If they needed something and I could help in any way I would not turn my back on them. I also learn much from people who do not share my opinions. If all we did was listen to the choir none of us would ever learn anything at all.

Things have settled down and I am doing great. Thank you.

Be safe and well,

Dennis

Steve V Loc: New Jersey

hernyferd Loc: California and New York

Posited works in this instance. I did not know about the quote busness, so I shall apply thatas have here. Thanks for the welcome.

sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land

failure to heed the right a way to oncoming traffic

sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land

yes by all means, also inform the state fish and game of the incident. Poaching is illegal in all 50 states. I have no nice words for a poacher.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I believe that is what I said in my second paragraph.

Dennis