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Mar 22, 2020 09:08:22   #
Bayou
 
DeanS wrote:
....One of the negatives I read on the fuji was cranky menus.


I own Pentax, Nikon (mostly what I shoot), Panasonic, and Fuji cameras. My favorite menu system is the Fuji.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:11:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I always look for comparisons online. You'd be amazed at all the combinations of cameras that have been compared. I find something like this more useful than asking someone how he likes his particular camera. A good reviewer will point out strengths and weaknesses of each model.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Sony+RX10+vs+Fuji+XT4&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS889US889&oq=Sony+RX10+vs+Fuji+XT4&aqs=chrome..69i57.7845j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

You can't always find exactly what you want, though.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Fuji+XT4+vs+Nikon+P950&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS889US889&oq=Fuji+XT4+vs+Nikon+P950&aqs=chrome..69i57.4805j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Mar 22, 2020 09:25:41   #
JanSIrons Loc: Central Illinois USA
 
DeanS wrote:
Thanks much - will weigh your advice. One of the negatives I read on the fuji was cranky menus. I was turned off by cranky menus with the Oly E-M1/II, an otherwise fine piece of equip. I like the menu sys on my Canon bodies.


If you dislike "cranky" menus, I'd advise against Sony! I switched from Canon to Sony & it was a learning curve to get "almost" comfortable after 9 months of regular use.

Last time I gave my impressions of the Sony RX10, I was ridiculed, so I'll just say RENT the cameras you're considering before you buy. Renting allows you to have a better understanding of actually using the camera. I use www.lensrentals.com and have been very satisfied.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:27:17   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
DeanS wrote:
Considering replacing my Leica V-Lux 4 with one of these id’ed above. The material I have seen on the newer Leica, V-Lux 5, was not very positive. My research on the three mentioned makes deciding difficult.

Interested in opinions from Hoggers who have hands-on experience with one or more of these. Please, no conjecture. Tia. 😎


All offer different advantages. It depends on what you want to shoot. Probably the best ALL AROUND would be the Sony RX10/IV. Personally I shy away from any bridge camera because the short comings of them are varied. I have personally used the RX10/IV, very nice, but I prefer it's smaller cousin, the Sony HX99.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:27:49   #
Nddave01 Loc: Bismarck, ND
 
DeanS wrote:
Thanks much - will weigh your advice. One of the negatives I read on the fuji was cranky menus. I was turned off by cranky menus with the Oly E-M1/II, an otherwise fine piece of equip. I like the menu sys on my Canon bodies.


I have been using the X-H1 for several months now and no regrets in switching from my Canon 5D II. Lots of menus and there is a learning curve. However there is the ability to assign those functions you use most to almost any of the buttons, screens, etc. I am slowly getting to the point where I have everything I use with any frequency placed where I can access it easily. I benefit from being able to carry the camera, 3 lenses (50-230 xc, 60 fx macro and 18-55 fx) flash unit, battery grip and camera care items in a relatively small Altura Sling backpack. As I rapidly approach my 70th birthday this is important for my photo walks.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:32:58   #
markwilliam1
 
I’d strongly suggest the Sony RX10M4. The Best bridge camera in the World!

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Mar 22, 2020 09:54:30   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
I have 3 Sony RX10 cameras including the IV. As another person said it depends on what you like to photograph. One of my photo hobbies is wildlife and having a 600mm lens in a package that can be hand held, even for fast moving animals like birds in flight was necessary. The RX10 IV is probably the best camera out there that fills that need as it is relatively small and lightweight, has super fast, accurate focussing and can shoot 24 frames per second, (and the 600mm reach). The lens goes to 24mm on the wide end so it is also good for landscapes and just about every other kind of photography. The only thing it has trouble with is astro photography because of the smaller sensor and the noise that comes with that at high ISOs. If you don't like cranky menus that may be a problem though as everyone (except me) complains about Sony menus. Using all the programmable buttons on the camera I seldom have to go into the menu system as all the settings I normally use are on a button.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:58:16   #
rtryan
 
Have the Sony for over a year. Lens is awesome. Yes menu is challenging, but try it out and it may be the all in one you want. Nice not to have to lug many lenses. I use the black widow spider holster on my belt and combination is great for great all in one camera and no neck pain

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Mar 22, 2020 10:12:48   #
Chief Rob
 
I suggest considering the Fujifilm X-T3 as it is virtually the same as the X-T4 in most regards in accordance with Ken Rickwell's review at https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm. However there are some differences that may be determinate in selecting one or the other. You know the old story: balance cost vs some capability. Only you can make that selection. But . . . . read the review of both cameras to fully understand the applications of the difference characteristics/capabilities. ChiefRob

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Mar 22, 2020 10:14:13   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Tks to all for your many positive replys to my post. I was certain going in that responses would be varied based on personal experience. As I mentioned earlier, I have access to a full service b&m and will pay a visit, probably after the new Fuji XT4 hits the mkt, and kick the tires, so to speak. My Leica V-Lux 4 has many nice features and would like to replace it with a comparable piece. The Leica is starting to act up and I don’t feel it is worth the cost of repair.

Tks again to all.

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Mar 22, 2020 10:18:24   #
markwilliam1
 
rtryan wrote:
Have the Sony for over a year. Lens is awesome. Yes menu is challenging, but try it out and it may be the all in one you want. Nice not to have to lug many lenses. I use the black widow spider holster on my belt and combination is great for great all in one camera and no neck pain

I also use the Black Widow Spider Holster for my RX10M4. Can hike all day and hardly notice the camera securely by my side!

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Mar 22, 2020 11:06:15   #
WarpedWeaver
 
My older XT-2 has easily navigated menus. I can't imagine that Fuji tried to complicate things on their menu. Besides, after customization, I rarely ever have to dive into the menu anymore. Just sayin'. But you really need to play with the cameras to determine which is best for you, IMHO. I am sure you could be happy with any listed.

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Mar 22, 2020 11:18:22   #
phv Loc: Goleta, California
 
I’m strictly an amateur, and have Nikons (7200, 3500), and various zoom and prime Nikon lenses which are pretty heavy. I’ve had the Sony Rx IV for a year and it’s my favorite camera (after learning the menu). It’s light so I can trudge around and do my bird photography without carrying pounds of gear. It’s versatile with its zoom, and the quality is pretty good! I’ve taken some wonderful birds in flight and in repose and find I simply enjoy the camera the best over my Nikons. If you are a professional, you probably don’t want the Sony, but for me, it’s a wonderful choice. I can send you samples of images if you’d like.

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Mar 22, 2020 11:40:36   #
orchidalan Loc: Arroyo Grande, CA
 
I have the Sony RX10VI and have been very pleased. It has an incredible tracking system and very fast to do that. It is almost the same size as DSLR's, but you don't have to carry other lenses. I was a Canon guy before so I have found the menu a little more difficult to navigate, but you get used to it. The pictures are very sharp. I had a Canon 77d before and all the review I read comparing the two showed that they were basically equal. Hope you enjoy anything you get.

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Mar 22, 2020 11:41:03   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
I have Fuji cameras and my friend has the Fuji XT-2. The camera are very intuitive. If you’ve had any experience with 35mm DSLR cameras you can pick up the camera and use it. I have the X-Pro2. Before Fuji I had Olympus which is a great camera, but the menus are daunting. My next camera which I’m not in a hurry to buy will be a Fuji probably an XT model.

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