No Trespassing
Mar 20, 2020 07:12:56 #
The harm is in ignoring private property rights...simple as that.
cameraf4 wrote:
Kinda thought this one might spark a good discussi... (show quote)
Mar 20, 2020 07:17:10 #
Yes some states are stand your ground law states and you can legally shoot someone on your property just for being there...
New Mexico Dave wrote:
In some parts of rural America, one needs to be careful. I took this message seriously. Photography from a public road is one thing, but disregarding a warning such as this one could be foolish.
Mar 20, 2020 07:28:08 #
billnikon wrote:
I respect all No Trespassing signs, just like I respect all stop signs, yield signs, do not enter signs. They are there for a reason. Unless you have permission from the property owner you are not welcome.
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Mar 20, 2020 07:31:35 #
I agree with a couple of others here, no trespassing means exactly what it says. But, he or she must take into consideration a couple of circumstances. As retired Law Enforcement, the words carry true meaning and a lot of weight. No trespassing means exactly what it says --- if it is private property,
If there is a no trespassing sign, why not just ask for permission, that is the right thing you do
Is it private property, or is it public properties. In a lot events, many overzealous individuals will try to control a situation by posting such signs when they have no actual right to do so. The ruling factor is is if it is in sight, do the right thing, and determine your "lawful" position before taking action... In many states, such as Florida, the sign - in and of itself - is enough to put you into jail without further warning if it is worded right and posted correctly... Just consider the consequences...
In closing, the best way to approach it is, ask yourself what would be your response if it was your property.
If there is a no trespassing sign, why not just ask for permission, that is the right thing you do
Is it private property, or is it public properties. In a lot events, many overzealous individuals will try to control a situation by posting such signs when they have no actual right to do so. The ruling factor is is if it is in sight, do the right thing, and determine your "lawful" position before taking action... In many states, such as Florida, the sign - in and of itself - is enough to put you into jail without further warning if it is worded right and posted correctly... Just consider the consequences...
In closing, the best way to approach it is, ask yourself what would be your response if it was your property.
Mar 20, 2020 07:34:21 #
pesfls wrote:
......So, we didn’t cry when he got divorced and lost the house to the bank. Life can sure be weird sometimes.
......So, we didn’t cry when he got divorced and lost the house to the bank. Life can sure be weird sometimes.
Looks like you were dealing with a real difficult “neighbor”. Just wondering if you ever tried to talk to him.
Mar 20, 2020 07:35:05 #
I trespassed once got caught and thrown off the farm. Broght him a framed picture of the picture. Got permission from him for then on
Mar 20, 2020 07:35:05 #
I trespassed once got caught and thrown off the farm. Broght him a framed picture of the picture. Got permission from him for then on
Mar 20, 2020 07:46:27 #
via the lens wrote:
In 20 years or so this may not be the case given the number of people who would have voted for Sanders as president. I do not trespass to take photos because I respect the private property rights of others.
I'm not a Sanders supporter but your comment about people that would vote for him is just plain stupid.
I do support your right to massacre trespassers.
Mar 20, 2020 07:57:43 #
cameraf4 wrote:
I know this is a touchy subject, but in my original question, I asked "If we tread lightly taking only photos and leaving only footprints", and make it a "quick shot", where exactly is the harm?
I know this is a touchy subject, but in my original question, I asked "If we tread lightly taking only photos and leaving only footprints", and make it a "quick shot", where exactly is the harm?
No harm, but if something illegal is going on on that land there could be HARM to you!
Mar 20, 2020 08:00:15 #
I live in the country, and most of you probably aren’t going to like this, but most of the trespassing problems in my area are caused by people living in municipalities who seem to think the countryside is all open range. They walk onto property clearly posted with little or no regard. The worst offenders are the hunters who sneak into the properties and set up their deer stands, and the snowmobilers and four-wheelers. They seem to think that because they have such contraptions and have nowhere else to ride them, they can go out into the country and ride as they please with no abandon. Thank goodness in this area coon hunting is pretty much gone. Those fellows would not hesitate to cut a fence anywhere to let their dogs through, letting the animals, mostly hogs and sheep, free to wander away. I am not against hunting; my son and his friend are avid hunters, and they hunt my property because they have blanket permission. Anyone else gets run off and reported. I have no use for trespassers.
As to photography, I carry introduction cards. If I want to go onto posted property, I attempt to find the owner and ask permission. If I can’t, I move on, respecting the signs.
If you are unaware, many states, including mine, now have laws regarding purple post laws. If a post head is painted purple, that is the same thing as a no trespassing sign.
Happy shooting; just ask first. With my introduction cards and a polite request, I have been turned away only once, and that was ok with me.
As to photography, I carry introduction cards. If I want to go onto posted property, I attempt to find the owner and ask permission. If I can’t, I move on, respecting the signs.
If you are unaware, many states, including mine, now have laws regarding purple post laws. If a post head is painted purple, that is the same thing as a no trespassing sign.
Happy shooting; just ask first. With my introduction cards and a polite request, I have been turned away only once, and that was ok with me.
Mar 20, 2020 08:15:00 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
Of course not. I'm just questioning the value of n... (show quote)
"I'm just questioning the value of no trespassing signs"
it is not important if you "value" the sign or not. It is not your property. The value is understanding that simple point.
Mar 20, 2020 08:15:22 #
goldstar46 wrote:
...the best way to approach it is, ask yourself what would be your response if it was your property.
Wow! Much more contention than I had expected. To anyone who may have read my original post you may recall that I said "When I was growing up, we "kids" ranged all over town, in anyone's "yard", and nobody minded because there was literally no vandalism or property damage going on." In our community of photographers, we are all familiar with the saying "Take only photographs, leave only footprints."
To answer Goldstar's question here, IF my property was adjacent to a covered bridge or photogenic barn or the like, so long as a photographer was respectful of the land and only "intruded" to photo the subject and left "only footprints", I personally would have no objection. If, however, throngs of shooters suddenly showed up and were on my property, then I would object.
Mar 20, 2020 08:16:30 #
New Mexico Dave
Loc: Corrales, NM
Such a different set of "rules" apply in the West versus the East. In the Eastern US (east of the 100th Meridian), almost all of the land is in private possession. In the Western US, there are over 400 million acres that are in public ownership. That means that you folks in Mississippi and New Hampshire "own" it just as I do living here in New Mexico. The Bureau of Land Management, the US Forest Service and the US Fish & Wildlife Service (among many other state and Federal agencies) all administer these lands for ALL of our benefit and enjoyment. We here in the West are so spoiled. We just go out and visit and hike and photograph to our hearts delight on these lands. BUT, with that being said, private property rights are VERY different in different portions of our country. I would respectfully ask that we are responsible when we (as photographers) go out and look for photo opportunities. As others have mentioned in this discussion, location and circumstance matters. Just be AWARE, ask permission, be courteous and respectful. Just get out with the camera and capture incredible images.
Mar 20, 2020 08:18:43 #
No Trespassing means what it says, There are other Beautiful, Scenic locations a Photographer can go and find the perfect image to capture.
Of course No Trespassing does not mean you cannot use a Telephoto lens, from a safe and legal spot to capture that image too.
Of course No Trespassing does not mean you cannot use a Telephoto lens, from a safe and legal spot to capture that image too.
Mar 20, 2020 08:18:43 #
No Trespassing means what it says, There are other Beautiful, Scenic locations a Photographer can go and find the perfect image to capture.
Of course No Trespassing does not mean you cannot use a Telephoto lens, from a safe and legal spot to capture that image too.
Of course No Trespassing does not mean you cannot use a Telephoto lens, from a safe and legal spot to capture that image too.
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